https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
versa.
On 2026-04-23 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-
d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult.ÿ Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
ÿ China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right?ÿÿ And vice
versa.
In 2018 I bought a SIM card on Amazon before flying to Canada. Worked
fine.
In 2023 I did the same, but worked badly (I don't remember why,
but I can find out my notes, perhaps), and had to buy another SIM
locally from Bell-Canada.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
versa.
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the regular number at home.
My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.
All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are
not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
prices for a limited period of time as addon.
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the
regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.
Mine does not.
All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are
not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
prices for a limited period of time as addon.
No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my provider.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:[...]
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
these cripples.
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the
regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
these cripples.
My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.
Mine does not.
All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are >>> not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
prices for a limited period of time as addon.
No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my
provider.
Why is Spain lagging the rest of the world so much in mobile communication?
micky, 2026-04-23 09:54:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
E-SIM providers which cover many countries exist. For example:
<https://www.airalo.com>
<https://worldwideesim.com>
And also services which find a SIM provider for you:
<https://simpackers.com>
So there is usually no need to buy a SIM as tourist in the country where
you are. You can get an E-SIM or a SIM before you start your travel.
And China for example is covered by the "Asia" package of Arialo:
<https://www.airalo.com/asia-esim>
On 2026-04-24 03:13, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>>> versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>>> regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
these cripples.
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for personal use, another for the company. :-P
On 2026-04-24 03:13, J?rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J?rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>> versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>> regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
these cripples.
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for personal use, another for the company. :-P
My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all >>> of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.
Mine does not.
All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom. >>> I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are >>> not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
prices for a limited period of time as addon.
No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my >> provider.
Why is Spain lagging the rest of the world so much in mobile communication?
ha, ha.
Indeed, it has absolutely nothing to do with 'lagging', but with flexibility, price, cost, etc., etc.. For example, for a little over
what J”rg spends more in a month, I paid my bill for the last *two
years*! [1] (Single-SIM? :-)) Apples to oranges!? :-)
[1] No, mine is not typical use, that's the whole point.
On 24.04.26 17:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Indeed, it has absolutely nothing to do with 'lagging', but with flexibility, price, cost, etc., etc.. For example, for a little over
what J?rg spends more in a month, I paid my bill for the last *two
years*! [1] (Single-SIM? :-)) Apples to oranges!? :-)
[1] No, mine is not typical use, that's the whole point.
You are missing the whole point and the topic like so often.
Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:[...]
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for
personal use, another for the company. :-P
Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones themselves.
I'm working in highly security sensitive areas and I can tell you: An absolute no go.
Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2026-04-24 03:13, J?rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J?rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a >>>>>> tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>>>> versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and >>>>> nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>>>> regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
these cripples.
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for
personal use, another for the company. :-P
Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones >themselves.
I'm working in highly security sensitive areas
and I can tell you: An
absolute no go.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
versa.
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J”rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2026-04-24 03:13, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>>>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>>>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a >>>>>>> tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>>>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>>>>> versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and >>>>>> nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>>>>> regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
these cripples.
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for
personal use, another for the company. :-P
Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones
themselves.
I'm working in highly security sensitive areas
Well, bully for you, but most people don't.
and I can tell you: An
absolute no go.
So what has where you work got to do with what other people do?
In the USA, many people work just as Carlos describes, with two sims,
one for work and one for non-work.
And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to
give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather
than beating your wife.
On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:[...]
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J?rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather than beating your wife.
The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:[...]
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J”rg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to >>> give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather >>> than beating your wife.
The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for
many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
And in this case, J”rg's qualification "lagging" is clearly false,
because I'm sure Spain *does* have (mobile service) contracts similar to
the one J”rg has, but you (and others) probably do not need/want such a contract and you (and others) are probably not willing to pay that kind
of money - CHF 46.95 / EUR 51 per month - for it.
On 2026-04-26 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:[...]
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J?rg Lorenz >>> <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to >>> give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better >>> way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather >>> than beating your wife.
The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for >> many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
And in this case, J?rg's qualification "lagging" is clearly false, because I'm sure Spain *does* have (mobile service) contracts similar to the one J?rg has, but you (and others) probably do not need/want such a contract and you (and others) are probably not willing to pay that kind
of money - CHF 46.95 / EUR 51 per month - for it.
There is a lot of differences as to the contract each company gets. If company A is "friends" with company B in another country, it gets a good deal. But if they are not "friends", they get a bad deal.
Look at the roaming prices I get from Movistar in Canada:
Internet
Data: ?12.10/MB
Calls
To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
To other destinations: ?4.83/min + ?1.21 connection fee
Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
SMS
Sending SMS messages to any destination: ?1.21 per SMS
Received SMS messages: ?0
These are not prices, they are penalties!
I can buy a package, but I don't understand what they say:
Switzerland is also expensive for me, they consider it similar to USA
and Canada. It is not included in the EU package:
Internet
Data:
500MB for ?6.05/day
Daily rate. You?ll only pay for the days you use data.
Calls
To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
To other destinations: ?4.83/min + connection charge ?1.21
SMS and MMS
Sending SMS to any destination: ?1.21/SMS
Sending MMS to any destination: ?4.84/MMS
Received SMS and MMS: ?0
Maybe a different provider offers different prices.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-04-26 15:19, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:[...]
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J”rg Lorenz >>>>> <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
And in this case, J”rg's qualification "lagging" is clearly false,And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to >>>>> give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better >>>>> way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather >>>>> than beating your wife.
The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for >>>> many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe >>>> they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital >>>> TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal". >>>
because I'm sure Spain *does* have (mobile service) contracts similar to >>> the one J”rg has, but you (and others) probably do not need/want such a
contract and you (and others) are probably not willing to pay that kind
of money - CHF 46.95 / EUR 51 per month - for it.
There is a lot of differences as to the contract each company gets. If
company A is "friends" with company B in another country, it gets a good
deal. But if they are not "friends", they get a bad deal.
Look at the roaming prices I get from Movistar in Canada:
Internet
Data: ?12.10/MB
Calls
To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
To other destinations: ?4.83/min + ?1.21 connection fee
Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
SMS
Sending SMS messages to any destination: ?1.21 per SMS
Received SMS messages: ?0
These are not prices, they are penalties!
Yes, these are high prices, but I assume you have a low tier contract
(or no contract at all (just PAYG)?). You probably don't spend J”rg's EU 51/month, do you?
I can buy a package, but I don't understand what they say:
Yes, packages ('bundles') should give much lower rates per min/SMS/MB
and often such entitlements are/can_be bundled in the monthly charge.
And for a flexible contract/service, such bundles can often be enabled/ disabled on a monthly basis.
[...]
Switzerland is also expensive for me, they consider it similar to USA
and Canada. It is not included in the EU package:
That is strange! Obviously Switzerland is not included in the EU, but
for our providers, several non-EU European countries are treated the
same as EU countries, for example Switzerland, UK, Norway, Andorra,
Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco. The EU plus these non-EU countries are
called 'zone 1', which AFAIK is a European concept, so I think it's
strange that Spanish providers would treat Switzerland differently.
So to be specific, for us a call from Switzerland and within
Switzerland would cost the same as a call in The Netherlands. Same for
SMS and same for data.
Internet
Data:
500MB for ?6.05/day
Daily rate. You?ll only pay for the days you use data.
Calls
To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + connection charge ?1.21
To other destinations: ?4.83/min + connection charge ?1.21
SMS and MMS
Sending SMS to any destination: ?1.21/SMS
Sending MMS to any destination: ?4.84/MMS
Received SMS and MMS: ?0
Maybe a different provider offers different prices.
I am sure they do.
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Internet
Data: ?12.10/MB
Calls
To Spain or local numbers: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
To other destinations: ?4.83/min + ?1.21 connection fee
Incoming calls: ?1.82/min + ?1.21 connection fee
SMS
Sending SMS messages to any destination: ?1.21 per SMS
Received SMS messages: ?0
These are not prices, they are penalties!
Yes, these are high prices, but I assume you have a low tier contract (or no contract at all (just PAYG)?). You probably don't spend J”rg's EU 51/month, do you?
I'm on O2, unlimited calls and text contract, plus 20GB data, but it
doesn't include MMS those are ?0.87 each, only their "ultimate plan" at ?68/month includes them.
On 2026-04-26 17:18, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
These are not prices, they are penalties!
Yes, these are high prices, but I assume you have a low tier contract (or no contract at all (just PAYG)?). You probably don't spend J?rg's EU 51/month, do you?
Oh, yes, I have a full contract.
miMovistar: Max (Fiber with Device) | Movistar Plus+
Nowhere does it say the price, and I "updated" the contract a week
ago, so no invoice yet. I expect around a hundred euros.
I can buy a package, but I don't understand what they say:
Yes, packages ('bundles') should give much lower rates per min/SMS/MB and often such entitlements are/can_be bundled in the monthly charge.
And for a flexible contract/service, such bundles can often be enabled/ disabled on a monthly basis.
Yes, I mean an international package, but I did not locate info on it.
Still, very limited on USA/Canada
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-04-26 17:18, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
These are not prices, they are penalties!
Yes, these are high prices, but I assume you have a low tier contract >>> (or no contract at all (just PAYG)?). You probably don't spend J”rg's EU >>> 51/month, do you?
Oh, yes, I have a full contract.
miMovistar: Max (Fiber with Device) | Movistar Plus+
[fiber broadband and mobile and ... and ...]
Nowhere does it say the price, and I "updated" the contract a week
ago, so no invoice yet. I expect around a hundred euros.
We were implicitly talking about mobile-only single-device contracts,
so the price of the large bundle you have can not be compared to the
other contracts.
I can buy a package, but I don't understand what they say:
Yes, packages ('bundles') should give much lower rates per min/SMS/MB >>> and often such entitlements are/can_be bundled in the monthly charge.
And for a flexible contract/service, such bundles can often be enabled/
disabled on a monthly basis.
Yes, I mean an international package, but I did not locate info on it.
Still, very limited on USA/Canada
Perhaps another provider has 'cheap' international packages which you could use with an/their extra SIM.
For example one of the providers we use has a 10GB Canada and US bundle for EUR 25 and a 20GB one for EUR 35. Validity one month. Sadly this
provider has no cheap bundles for call/SMS from in Canada.
Bottom line is that you have to be somewhat creative and inquisitive
to (try to) get what best suits your needs.
For example, I as a Dutchman, used my Australian (Telstra) SIM in the
US for data, because that SIM/provider had better/cheaper data
bundles than my Dutch provider (Vodafone). So an Australian SIM in a
Dutch phone for use in the US!
[...]
On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J?rg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2026-04-24 03:13, J?rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J?rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>>>>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a >>>>>>>> tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>>>>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>>>>>> versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and >>>>>>> nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>>>>>> regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell >>>>> these cripples.
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for >>>> personal use, another for the company. :-P
Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones
themselves.
I'm working in highly security sensitive areas
Well, bully for you, but most people don't.
and I can tell you: An
absolute no go.
So what has where you work got to do with what other people do?
In the USA, many people work just as Carlos describes, with two sims,
one for work and one for non-work.
And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to
give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather
than beating your wife.
The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for >many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 14:08:34 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-04-25 22:53, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:06:44 +0200, J”rg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2026-04-24 03:13, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-04-23 22:01, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim
Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa
China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a >>>>>>>>> tourist cumbersome
CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>>>>>>> versa.
Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and >>>>>>>> nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the
regular number at home.
Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.
The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell >>>>>> these cripples.
Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for >>>>> personal use, another for the company. :-P
Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones
themselves.
I'm working in highly security sensitive areas
Well, bully for you, but most people don't.
and I can tell you: An
absolute no go.
So what has where you work got to do with what other people do?
In the USA, many people work just as Carlos describes, with two sims,
one for work and one for non-work.
And your use of "lagging" to describe Spain is interesting. You love to >>> give zingers even when polite speech could make your point in a better
way. I suppose it's better that you get your aggression out here, rather >>> than beating your wife.
The Swiss love to ditch technologies that other countries keep using for
many years because they consider them obsolete. For instance, I believe
they no longer have FM radio (use DAB instead), or over the air digital
TV (you need to pay for Internet tv instead).
Thus they consider other countries "lagging" when they are just "normal".
All very interesting.
So that accounts for some of his obnoxiousness, but not all of it.
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