• IPv6 Marches On

    From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 17, 2026 00:32:00
    Some interesting stats from <https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/ipv6-usage-reaches-historic-50-percent-across-google-services-matching-ipv4-increased-usage-eases-pressure-on-the-ipv4-address-market-as-new-protocol-designed-in-1998-finally-hits-its-stride>:

    ? 50% of users of Google?s services connect over IPv6
    ? 43% of the world uses IPv6, with some parts approaching 50%
    ? Cloudflare reports 40% of its traffic is done via IPv6

    Choice quote:

    Some people still think that the additional 20 bytes or so of an
    IPv6 packet header translates to significant bandwidth losses,
    higher CPU usage, and hair loss. The reality is that even 11 years
    ago, Facebook's tests saw that IPv6 connectivity was around 10-15%
    faster overall, while networking giant Akamai noticed a 5% speedup
    in mobile page loading. The speedups are almost assuredly due to
    the fact that with IPv6, there's very little need to do math with
    NAT, proxies, and other shenanigans, as in most instances,
    everything can directly connect to everything else.

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  • From Marco Moock@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 17, 2026 20:27:47
    On 17.04.2026 00:32 Uhr Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

    ? 50% of users of Google?s services connect over IPv6
    ? 43% of the world uses IPv6, with some parts approaching 50%
    ? Cloudflare reports 40% of its traffic is done via IPv6

    The apnic has more detailed statistics, also possible to filter by
    country or ASN.
    https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, April 23, 2026 00:04:22
    On 17/04/2026 01:32, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    Some interesting stats from <https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/ipv6-usage-reaches-historic-50-percent-across-google-services-matching-ipv4-increased-usage-eases-pressure-on-the-ipv4-address-market-as-new-protocol-designed-in-1998-finally-hits-its-stride>:

    ? 50% of users of Google?s services connect over IPv6
    ? 43% of the world uses IPv6, with some parts approaching 50%
    ? Cloudflare reports 40% of its traffic is done via IPv6

    Choice quote:

    Some people still think that the additional 20 bytes or so of an
    IPv6 packet header translates to significant bandwidth losses,
    <snip>

    I disable IPv6 on everything as habit.

    Apparently that cuts me off from accessing newly provisioned younger
    parts of the internet, most that are either scam territories or AI farms.

    No loss.

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From Roger Blake@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 24, 2026 00:51:37
    On 2026-04-22, Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
    I disable IPv6 on everything as habit.

    Same here. Having worked with IPV4 almost since its inception I have
    no inclination at this late date to learn IPV6. Just don't care to
    deal with it.

    Apparently that cuts me off from accessing newly provisioned younger
    parts of the internet, most that are either scam territories or AI farms.

    No loss.

    I'd agree. I've been able to get to anything I need to via IPV4.

    --
    Roger Blake

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  • From SH@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 24, 2026 10:09:37
    On 24/04/2026 01:51, Roger Blake wrote:
    On 2026-04-22, Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
    I disable IPv6 on everything as habit.

    Same here. Having worked with IPV4 almost since its inception I have
    no inclination at this late date to learn IPV6. Just don't care to
    deal with it.

    Apparently that cuts me off from accessing newly provisioned younger
    parts of the internet, most that are either scam territories or AI farms.

    No loss.

    I'd agree. I've been able to get to anything I need to via IPV4.


    I ended up having to turn IP v6 support at the router as it was messing
    up my DNS.

    I run some Pi Holes. I had set the IP addresses of MY DNS to
    192.168.0.29 and 192.168.0.30 and also set their corresponding IP v6
    addresses in the router.

    All my PC's wired to the home network were all using these DNS no problem.

    However, all my mobile phones decided to use Google DNS even though I
    could see the Pi Hole DNS settings in the network settings on said phones

    Even when I installed a WIREGUARD VPN server and installed the clients
    on my mobile phones. The problem persisted over VPN.

    I ended up turning off IP v6 support in the router and the problem has
    gone away.

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  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 24, 2026 11:17:15
    On 24/04/2026 01:51, Roger Blake wrote:
    I'd agree. I've been able to get to anything I need to via IPV4.

    Strike 1. Nobody is going to run a serious (= money-making) service that
    isn't IPv4 accessible.



    On 2026-04-24, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    I ended up turning off IP v6 support in the router and the problem has
    gone away.

    Strike 2. The fact that thse words are repeated over and over suggests something is very, very wrong with the way IPv6 has been handled.


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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  • From Marco Moock@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 24, 2026 20:40:15
    On 24.04.2026 11:17 Uhr Ian wrote:

    Strike 2. The fact that thse words are repeated over and over suggests something is very, very wrong with the way IPv6 has been handled.

    Millions of people use it every day without issues. Some device or even
    just configurations are faulty. In that case please investigate the
    issue and report it to the manufacturer.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1777022235muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de


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  • From Marco Moock@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 24, 2026 20:41:33
    On 24.04.2026 10:09 Uhr SH wrote:

    I ended up having to turn IP v6 support at the router as it was
    messing up my DNS.

    I run some Pi Holes. I had set the IP addresses of MY DNS to
    192.168.0.29 and 192.168.0.30 and also set their corresponding IP v6 addresses in the router.

    All my PC's wired to the home network were all using these DNS no
    problem.

    However, all my mobile phones decided to use Google DNS even though I
    could see the Pi Hole DNS settings in the network settings on said
    phones

    IPv6 is not the issue here. Certain operating systems and applications
    (e.g. browsers) use DNS over HTTPS for name resolution instead of the
    OS resolver functions, so the servers you distribute via DHCPv4, DHCPv6
    or the router advertisment will not be used.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1777018177muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 24, 2026 22:57:35
    On Fri, 24 Apr 2026 11:17:15 -0000 (UTC), Ian wrote:

    Strike 1. Nobody is going to run a serious (= money-making) service
    that isn't IPv4 accessible.

    I think large parts of Asia are connected purely via IPv6. This is not
    a matter of choice, but of necessity, since the Western regions had
    gobbled up most of the IPv4 addresses, and so there were none left for
    the billions of new users.

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  • From SH@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2026 10:00:03
    On 24/04/2026 19:41, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 24.04.2026 10:09 Uhr SH wrote:

    I ended up having to turn IP v6 support at the router as it was
    messing up my DNS.

    I run some Pi Holes. I had set the IP addresses of MY DNS to
    192.168.0.29 and 192.168.0.30 and also set their corresponding IP v6
    addresses in the router.

    All my PC's wired to the home network were all using these DNS no
    problem.

    However, all my mobile phones decided to use Google DNS even though I
    could see the Pi Hole DNS settings in the network settings on said
    phones

    IPv6 is not the issue here. Certain operating systems and applications
    (e.g. browsers) use DNS over HTTPS for name resolution instead of the
    OS resolver functions, so the servers you distribute via DHCPv4, DHCPv6
    or the router advertisment will not be used.



    So How do I force or redirect *every* device that conencts to my network
    to use MY own 2 DNS rather than wandering off and using an external DNS
    like Google's own DNS?

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  • From Theo@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2026 11:47:01
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    So How do I force or redirect *every* device that conencts to my network
    to use MY own 2 DNS rather than wandering off and using an external DNS
    like Google's own DNS?

    Block the IPs of external DNS servers.

    If a device decides to DIY its own DNS (or DoH or DoT), there's nothing you
    can do to stop it - no setting in DHCPv4, DHCPv6, RAs is going to prevent
    it. Only if it can't reach the external servers might it fall back to what it's been told in local config.

    Theo

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2026 07:13:31
    In article <10shvqk$mefs$1@dont-email.me>, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    So How do I force or redirect *every* device that conencts to my network
    to use MY own 2 DNS rather than wandering off and using an external DNS
    like Google's own DNS?

    Why would you want to? Advertise your routes so that external DNS servers
    like Google know about them.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Theo@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2026 14:48:43
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <10shvqk$mefs$1@dont-email.me>, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    So How do I force or redirect *every* device that conencts to my network >to use MY own 2 DNS rather than wandering off and using an external DNS >like Google's own DNS?

    Why would you want to? Advertise your routes so that external DNS servers like Google know about them.

    Google does it because they don't like people running their own DNS servers which might have the temerity to block their ads and/or tracking at the DNS level. Of course they don't say that, they say 'to protect your traffic
    from snooping network admins'. But one's snooping network admin is
    another's blocker of Google's own snooping.

    This is also a PITA if you want to talk to devices on the LAN - Google's DNS doesn't know about your local DNS entries that aren't in the public DNS
    (like dvd-server.lan or whatever). You could create public DNS records for those (eg dvd-server.mydomain.example A 192.168.1.2) and Google will serve
    them (some DNS won't), but that means exposing your private device names to
    the internet.

    Theo

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