• Re: ChatGPT is completely fucking useless

    From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 07:02:23
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:57:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    Rubbish! It can compose Elizabethan sonnets in 15 seconds.

    Gemini got it right

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 08:02:12
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:57:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    Rubbish! It can compose Elizabethan sonnets in 15 seconds.

    Elizabethans did that for you already.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 09:59:44
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:57:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman
    Rubbish! It can compose Elizabethan sonnets in 15 seconds.
    Elizabethans did that for you already.


    lol

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 10:06:27
    Rod Speed wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    wrong!
    .........................................................
    Dezi Freeman

    Dezi Freeman is an Australian rules football player known for her time
    in the AFL Women?s (AFLW) competition.

    Key details:
    Full name: Dezi Freeman
    Sport: Australian Rules Football
    League: AFL Women?s (AFLW)
    Position: Typically played as a midfielder/forward
    Notable team: Collingwood Football Club
    Career highlights:
    Drafted into the AFLW and played for Collingwood during the early
    seasons of the competition.
    Known for her athleticism and ability to impact games both in midfield
    and attack.
    Part of the league?s formative years as women?s Australian football
    rapidly expanded in popularity.

    If you want, I can go deeper into her stats, career timeline, or what
    she?s doing after football. .........................................................

    wtf? lol!


    Gemini got it right

    yep!

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  • From Ozix@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 07:29:44
    Rod Speed wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 12:02:33
    Rod Speed wrote:
    Axel <none@not.here> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    wrong!

    Nope

    .........................................................
    Dezi Freeman

    Dezi Freeman is an Australian rules football player known for her
    time in the AFL Women?s (AFLW) competition.

    Key details:
    Full name: Dezi Freeman
    Sport: Australian Rules Football
    League: AFL Women?s (AFLW)
    Position: Typically played as a midfielder/forward
    Notable team: Collingwood Football Club
    Career highlights:
    Drafted into the AFLW and played for Collingwood during the early
    seasons of the competition.
    Known for her athleticism and ability to impact games both in
    midfield and attack.
    Part of the league?s formative years as women?s Australian football
    rapidly expanded in popularity.

    If you want, I can go deeper into her stats, career timeline, or what
    she?s doing after football.
    .........................................................

    The stupid thing told me that there was no one well known with that name

    And now delivers this. can't even manage a consistent line in bullshit https://chatgpt.com/share/69cc5c50-e5a0-8322-9c1e-ad20c96d6356

    LOL


    wtf? lol!

    Yeah completely fucked

    Gemini got it right

    yep!


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 12:03:29
    Rod Speed wrote:
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    ?Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

    Any decent AI should be up to date

    Gemini was re Freeman

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  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 13:04:43
    On 1 Apr 2026 08:02:12 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
    Kev) wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:57:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    Rubbish! It can compose Elizabethan sonnets in 15 seconds.

    Elizabethans did that for you already.

    Not like this...

    Hello, may I have a sonnet chiding a troll called "Rod" imploring him
    to change his insulting and rude behavior, and suggesting he seek help
    via a contemplative order in Tibet?

    Rod, once you cast your barbs with careless glee,
    Your words like pebbles hurled at passing minds;
    They splash, then sink, yet ripple through the sea
    Of days, unsettling the gentler kinds.

    What sport is found in jabs that leave a bruise,
    Or wit that sharpens only to belittle?
    A louder sneer is still a weaker muse;
    True strength speaks firm, yet keeps its compass little.

    Consider paths where quieter hearts roam?
    Where breath is taught to listen, not to fight;
    In Tibet?s heights, contemplative rites call home
    The scattered self to patience, depth, and light.

    So trade the troll?s quick spark for kinder range;
    In tending calm, you may yet find your change.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 13:17:08
    Peter Jason wrote:
    On 1 Apr 2026 08:02:12 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
    Kev) wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:57:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman
    Rubbish! It can compose Elizabethan sonnets in 15 seconds.
    Elizabethans did that for you already.
    Not like this...

    Hello, may I have a sonnet chiding a troll called "Rod" imploring him
    to change his insulting and rude behavior, and suggesting he seek help
    via a contemplative order in Tibet?

    Rod, once you cast your barbs with careless glee,
    Your words like pebbles hurled at passing minds;
    They splash, then sink, yet ripple through the sea
    Of days, unsettling the gentler kinds.

    What sport is found in jabs that leave a bruise,
    Or wit that sharpens only to belittle?
    A louder sneer is still a weaker muse;
    True strength speaks firm, yet keeps its compass little.

    Consider paths where quieter hearts roam?
    Where breath is taught to listen, not to fight;
    In Tibet?s heights, contemplative rites call home
    The scattered self to patience, depth, and light.

    So trade the troll?s quick spark for kinder range;
    In tending calm, you may yet find your change.

    LOL

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  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 16:39:53
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 13:17:08 +1100, Axel <none@not.here> wrote:

    Peter Jason wrote:
    On 1 Apr 2026 08:02:12 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
    Kev) wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:57:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman
    Rubbish! It can compose Elizabethan sonnets in 15 seconds.
    Elizabethans did that for you already.
    Not like this...

    Hello, may I have a sonnet chiding a troll called "Rod" imploring him
    to change his insulting and rude behavior, and suggesting he seek help
    via a contemplative order in Tibet?

    Rod, once you cast your barbs with careless glee,
    Your words like pebbles hurled at passing minds;
    They splash, then sink, yet ripple through the sea
    Of days, unsettling the gentler kinds.

    What sport is found in jabs that leave a bruise,
    Or wit that sharpens only to belittle?
    A louder sneer is still a weaker muse;
    True strength speaks firm, yet keeps its compass little.

    Consider paths where quieter hearts roam?
    Where breath is taught to listen, not to fight;
    In Tibet?s heights, contemplative rites call home
    The scattered self to patience, depth, and light.

    So trade the troll?s quick spark for kinder range;
    In tending calm, you may yet find your change.

    LOL
    Didn't work though.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2026 17:42:47
    On 1/04/2026 9:52 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    ˙Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

    Any decent AI should be up to date

    GIGO

    OR

    Garbage in = AI slop out

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, April 02, 2026 09:32:59
    On 1/04/2026 5:51 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    ˙Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

    ˙Any decent AI should be up to date

    GIGO

    Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    OR

    Garbage in = AI slop out

    Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    Thousand monkeys with typewriters ..........

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, April 02, 2026 20:22:27
    On 2/04/2026 5:27 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    ˙Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

    ˙Any decent AI should be up to date

    GIGO

    ˙Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    OR

    Garbage in = AI slop out

    ˙Doesnt explain wh y Gemini got it right

    Thousand monkeys with typewriters ..........

    Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    Real intelligences think, artificial intelligences don't, they just take keywords from your prompt and then go looking in the data that they have
    been given for something relevant. Obviously, ChatGPT hadn't been told
    about Dezi Freeman, but, at least, it didn't just make something up as
    some "AI"s have been known to do when they can't find real data.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 03, 2026 16:00:03
    On 3/04/2026 2:21 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    ˙Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

    ˙Any decent AI should be up to date

    GIGO

    ˙Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    OR

    Garbage in = AI slop out

    ˙Doesnt explain wh y Gemini got it right

    Thousand monkeys with typewriters ..........

    ˙Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    Real intelligences think, artificial intelligences don't,

    I only asked Gemini for the data, I didnt ask it to think

    they just take˙˙ keywords from your prompt andthen go˙˙ looking in the
    data that they have been given for something relevant.

    Gemini clearly didnt just look at what it had been
    given, it went looking for the data I had asked for

    They both went looking for the data that you asked for in the data that
    they had. In this case Gemini had the data that you were looking for,
    ChatGPT didn't for whatever reason.

    Obviously, ChatGPT hadn't been told˙˙ about Dezi Freeman,

    Gemini hadn't been either, but clearly
    was quite capable of finding it for itself.

    Exactly how do you know the mechanism by which either of them work?

    but, at least, it didn't just make something up as˙˙ some"AI"s have
    been known to do when they can't find real data.

    ChatGPT is clearly incapable of finding that very easy to find data

    Gawd, nothing changes, once you have an idea no matter how wrong in your
    head, it's impossible to shift it.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 03, 2026 17:51:31
    On 3/04/2026 4:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Has never heard of Dezi Freeman

    Gemini got it right

    Presumably training data is more than 7 months old

    Any decent AI should be up to date

    GIGO

    Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    OR

    Garbage in = AI slop out

    Doesnt explain wh y Gemini got it right

    Thousand monkeys with typewriters ..........

    Doesnt explain why Gemini got it right

    Real intelligences think, artificial intelligences don't,

    I only asked Gemini for the data, I didnt ask it to think

    they just take˙˙ keywords from your prompt andthen go˙˙ looking in
    the data that they have been given for something relevant.

    Gemini clearly didnt just look at what it had been
    given, it went looking for the data I had asked for

    They both went looking for the data that you asked for in the data
    that they had.

    More of your mindless bullshit, Gemini clearly
    kept collecting data given that it was completely
    up to date with his execution

    In this case Gemini had the data that you were looking for,

    It clearly keeps collecting data

    ChatGPT didn't for whatever reason.

    Because its fucked by design

    Obviously, ChatGPT hadn't been told˙˙ about Dezi Freeman,

    Gemini hadn't been either, but clearly
    was quite capable of finding it for itself.

    Exactly how do you know the mechanism by which either of them work?

    Clearly Gemini does keep checking for new data

    And clearly ChatGPT doesnt bother because its fucked by design

    but, at least, it didn't just make something up as˙˙ some"AI"s have
    been known to do when they can't find real data.

    ChatGPT is clearly incapable of finding that very easy to find data

    Gawd, nothing changes, once you have an idea no matter how wrong in
    your head, it's impossible to shift it.

    You havent shown that there is anything wrong with what I said,
    you pathetic excuse for a fuckwit pommy bullshit artist

    Rod raises the white flag - goodbye.

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