I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailedAmazing, people like you post clear examples of useless AI waffle
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
then say it's great.
I don't understand how people find it better
than reading factual information from a reliable source,
when it can easily be feeding you BS.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Yeah, I love it too and always use it
One minor quirk is that the full AI can give
a slightly different answer to the automatic
first one, I got that result today when checking
the pretzel's claim that 80% of recent new jobs
were govt related. The automatic one didnt
say yes or no, but the full one said it is correct
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailedAmazing, people like you post clear examples of useless AI waffle
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
then say it's great.
it's not 'useless waffle' when it gives you the answer(s) you're seeking
in a matter of seconds, which is exactly what it does
I don't understand how people find it better
than reading factual information from a reliable source,
time is valuable. if I can get information I need just by typing into google, why wouldn't I do that, rather than wading thru pages online?
when it can easily be feeding you BS.
or not.
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
I use the copilot and chatbot, and I'm careful to store all the
answers. The love letters and sonnet-insults are to die for.
Then do the decent thing and top yourself, soon
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
?I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a
detailed answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product
websites.
It is stealing traffic from the web sites who's information it is using.
That's not theft
That's reducing the income that the sites need to cover their costs.
That is very far from clear with any except wikipedia
which wikipedia keeps telling me that few donate to
Reduces the income of dinosaur newspapers. stiff shit
I havent been stupid enough pay newpapers for decades now
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:That's what I use web searches for. Except AI is ruining that too
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:it's not 'useless waffle' when it gives you the answer(s) you're seeking
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailedAmazing, people like you post clear examples of useless AI waffle
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
then say it's great.
in a matter of seconds, which is exactly what it does
now since for some topics results are now just get a wall of
obviously AI-generated slop on fake blogs which rabbit on repeating themselves with obvious statements and restatements like some
salesman guessing answers off the top of his head (and on the
topic of salesmen - the AI generated descriptions Ebay offers
sellers now are incredibly bad, it's amazing that some sellers
actually use that nonsense). The only thing that works to get some
practical answers is to look for results from web forums, which is
a shortcut for still getting some concise answers from real humans,
with actually useful facts that the Artificial Idiots haven't
picked up, and with the all-important context around them.
But it's quicker to type in a few keywords to a search engineI don't understand how people find it bettertime is valuable. if I can get information I need just by typing into
than reading factual information from a reliable source,
google, why wouldn't I do that, rather than wading thru pages online?
than
to type in a full question anyway, and you get a real answer rather
than a mash up of answers done by something with no understanding of
their context.
I tried one of these chatbots with questions that
got irrelevent search results and just got irrelevent waffle that,
since you no longer see the irrelevence of its source material like
you do with poor web search results, can be completely misleading.
Reports from others show the same thing - they're only good when
search results are good anyway, and then why not read the sources
yourself and get some measure of their trustworthyness?
Mind you I'm also suspicious about Wikipedia pages without good
references, and I actually check the references sometimes
(sometimes finding the Wikipedia writer has interpreted them
very differently to me), which nobody else seems to care about
either. Maybe truth is a niche topic?
The only way to know is to read the AI's source material yourselfwhen it can easily be feeding you BS.or not.
anyway.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:That's what I use web searches for. Except AI is ruining that too
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:it's not 'useless waffle' when it gives you the answer(s) you're seeking >>> in a matter of seconds, which is exactly what it does
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed >>>>> answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites. >>>> Amazing, people like you post clear examples of useless AI wafflethen say it's great.
AI is wrecking social media since so many videos are AI generated fakes.
we can't tell what is real or not. so much so there are calls for all AI content to be labeled as such. there's a funny series showing Queen Elizabeth running foul of the law, to mention just one.
now since for some topics results are now just get a wall of
obviously AI-generated slop on fake blogs which rabbit on repeating
themselves with obvious statements and restatements like some
salesman guessing answers off the top of his head (and on the
topic of salesmen - the AI generated descriptions Ebay offers
sellers now are incredibly bad, it's amazing that some sellers
actually use that nonsense). The only thing that works to get some
practical answers is to look for results from web forums, which is
a shortcut for still getting some concise answers from real humans,
of course humans never give wrong answers, do they..
with actually useful facts that the Artificial Idiots haven't
picked up, and with the all-important context around them.
AI answers provide context
But it's quicker to type in a few keywords to a search engineI don't understand how people find it bettertime is valuable. if I can get information I need just by typing into
than reading factual information from a reliable source,
google, why wouldn't I do that, rather than wading thru pages online?
that's all you do with google AI. sometimes I just type one word, and
still get all the info I need
than
to type in a full question anyway, and you get a real answer rather
than a mash up of answers done by something with no understanding of
their context.
if you get an answer that's correct and provides all the info you need, that's all that matters
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed >>>>> answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
I use the copilot and chatbot, and I'm careful to store all the
answers. The love letters and sonnet-insults are to die for.
Then do the decent thing and top yourself, soon
......uh?
cop this...
Get fucked...
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Interesting
I just asked the chrome ai what the choppers which
have be circling over the towns of griffith, leeton
and narrandara for days have been up to
Initially got a claim that its power line inspection
but when I told it that they are circling over the
towns proper, not power lines, got more waffle
When I told it that they are actually looking for
the murderer from Lake Cargelligo, it finally
agreed with me
And I know that's what they are doing because
thats what the chopper people told someone
who works at the griffith airport, maybe one
of the refuellers. They have been refuelling there
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 10:17:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed >>>>>> answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
I use the copilot and chatbot, and I'm careful to store all the
answers. The love letters and sonnet-insults are to die for.
Then do the decent thing and top yourself, soon
......uh?
cop this...
Get fucked...
How rude!
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Interesting
I just asked the chrome ai what the choppers which
have been circling over the towns of griffith, leeton
and narrandara for days have been up to
Initially got a claim that its power line inspection
but when I told it that they are circling over the
towns proper, not power lines, got more waffle
When I told it that they are actually looking for
the murderer from Lake Cargelligo, it finally
agreed with me
And I know that's what they are doing because
thats what the chopper people told someone
who works at the griffith airport, maybe one
of the refuellers. They have been refuelling there
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30
***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date is >>>>>>> April
15, 2026.
And it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal
Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on April >>>>>>> 15,
2026 to pay for it.
Your amaysim plan:
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are your >>>>>>> new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the
end of? your current plan cycle.
No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered
for you
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal"
So they were pulling the plug on your $10/28
days that you had been on for years now ?
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day one
That certainly explains why its not available on their web site
Good luck
No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,
Bet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave
amaysim
fair wait though
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would not
get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:I don't really care about that since I don't use social media in
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:AI is wrecking social media since so many videos are AI generated fakes.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:That's what I use web searches for. Except AI is ruining that too
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:it's not 'useless waffle' when it gives you the answer(s) you're seeking >>>> in a matter of seconds, which is exactly what it does
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed >>>>>> answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites. >>>>> Amazing, people like you post clear examples of useless AI wafflethen say it's great.
we can't tell what is real or not. so much so there are calls for all AI
content to be labeled as such. there's a funny series showing Queen
Elizabeth running foul of the law, to mention just one.
the first place, but all these fake blogs that flood search results
now are a real menace.
Rarely when, for example, it's the person who made somethingnow since for some topics results are now just get a wall ofof course humans never give wrong answers, do they..
obviously AI-generated slop on fake blogs which rabbit on repeating
themselves with obvious statements and restatements like some
salesman guessing answers off the top of his head (and on the
topic of salesmen - the AI generated descriptions Ebay offers
sellers now are incredibly bad, it's amazing that some sellers
actually use that nonsense). The only thing that works to get some
practical answers is to look for results from web forums, which is
a shortcut for still getting some concise answers from real humans,
who'se describing it on their website. Search engines already allow
you to find that accurate information (when there's not too much AI
slop in the way of it), AI chatbots are step backwards - adding in
a third party again.
They make up context, but they don't provide the context of thewith actually useful facts that the Artificial Idiots haven'tAI answers provide context
picked up, and with the all-important context around them.
original text they've ripped the facts from, which is what I was
talking about. Hence you get innaccurate facts wrapped in context
for something else entirely, which is more misleading than what you
usually get from a human who doesn't know the answer.
But it might not be correct. OK, seeing as I tried ChatGPT lastthat's all you do with google AI. sometimes I just type one word, andBut it's quicker to type in a few keywords to a search engineI don't understand how people find it bettertime is valuable. if I can get information I need just by typing into
than reading factual information from a reliable source,
google, why wouldn't I do that, rather than wading thru pages online?
still get all the info I need
thanif you get an answer that's correct and provides all the info you need,
to type in a full question anyway, and you get a real answer rather
than a mash up of answers done by something with no understanding of
their context.
that's all that matters
time, I'll try this Google Gemini with an example of a question
that's difficult to find relevent results for in a search engine:
Summary (since I doubt anyone will bother reading all its waffle):
Exactly the same sort of misleading nonsense (except more verbose)
as when I asked ChatGPT other questions that aren't easy to answer
with a search engine already.
Attempt 1 (first question I've ever asked Google Gemini):
Trying a quick query like I'd type into a search engine:
QUESTION:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
winter landscape by Joseph Jahn release year
ANSWER:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
While there isn't a single famous "Winter Landscape" by an artist
named Joseph Jahn that has a widely cited release date, the details
depend on which Joseph Jahn you are looking for.
The most likely candidate is Joseph M. Jahn, a contemporary
American-Danish painter.
1. Joseph M. Jahn (Born 1945)
Joseph M. Jahn is a Postwar & Contemporary artist known for Abstract Expressionist oil paintings.
Release Year/Timeline: He has been a professional painter since
1983.
Winter Themes: While he doesn't have one definitive "Winter
Landscape," he frequently paints abstract compositions. Many of his
works have been sold at auction since 2019, but they are often
titled "Composition" or specific themes like "Viking Raid" (2008).
Style: Thick oil paint, often applied with palette knives.
2. Potential Confusion with Similar Names
It's common for titles like "Winter Landscape" to be
misattributed or confused with other artists. You might be looking
for:
Jan van Goyen (Jan Josephsz. van Goyen): A famous 17th-century
Dutch painter. His famous Winter Landscape with Figures on Ice was
released in 1643.
Joseph Whalen: An American artist who created a notable Winter
Landscape in the 1970s.
Joseph Edward Hennah: A British artist whose Winter Landscape with
Town in the Valley was released around 1963.
Would you like me to generate an image in the style of Joseph M.
Jahn's abstract landscapes, or should I look for a specific
gallery catalog to find a match for the painting you're thinking of? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not what I wanted. I was asking about a musical work, not a
painting. However I did misspell the name Josef Jahn as "Joseph
Jahn". It did provide lots of references for the artists, which are
useless to me.
Attempt 2:
Try again with the correct spelling and more specific details in
the form of a question:
QUESTION:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
what year was the tracker module Winter Landscape by Josef Jahn
released?
ANSWER:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The tracker module "Winter Landscape" by Josef Jahn was released in
1996.
Josef Jahn is a composer known within the "tracker" and demoscene
community for his work using formats like .IT (Impulse Tracker) and
.XM (FastTracker II). This specific track is often celebrated for
its atmospheric, melodic quality, which was a hallmark of the
mid-90s PC tracking scene.
Track Details:
Composer: Josef Jahn
Release Year: 1996
Format: Typically found as an .IT (Impulse Tracker) module.
Genre: Chiptune / Atmospheric / Melodic
Context in the Demoscene
During the mid-to-late 90s, Josef Jahn was a productive member of
the tracking community, contributing to various music disks and
archives. "Winter Landscape" is frequently included in "best of"
tracker music compilations because of its ability to create a cold,
vast, and cinematic atmosphere using very limited sample
sizes a feat of technical and artistic skill common in that era
of digital music.
Would you like me to find a link to a tracker archive where you can
download or stream the module, or are you looking for other tracks
by Josef Jahn? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lots of semi-accurate waffle surrounding a complete stuff up! The
info in the module file itself says:
Winter Landscape
(C) 2001 Josef Jahn
http://www.playspoon.com
And if you view the author's long-dead website on the Wayback
Machine it confirms that it was: "written by Josef Jahn 31 December
2001":
http://web.archive.org/web/20060130235039/http://www.playspoon.com/awf/index.php?id=137
The correct info is also on the modern web at The Mod Archive,
where their news talks about struggling to keep the site online
against the waves of AI bots recently scraping it to death. Not
that it did this AI any good apparantly. Searching "winter
landscape" there quickly brings it up a single correct result:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=171297
Where you can see "(C) 2001 Josef Jahn" under "Internal Texts". But
I guess that's above the intelligence of the Artificial Idiot that
also got other facts in its waffle wrong, and provided no
references to check with that response.
Attempt 3:
Just for fun I tried the first, search-engine-like, query with the
correct spelling:
QUESTION:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
winter landscape by Josef Jahn release year
ANSWER:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Actually, there appears to be a slight mix-up with the name. The
famous tracker module titled "Winter Landscape" was actually
composed by Jogeir Liljedahl, not Josef Jahn.
It was released in 1995 (specifically around November) as part of
the Amiga demoscene.
Track Details:
Composer: Jogeir Liljedahl
Release Year: 1995
Format: .MOD (ProTracker) / .XM (FastTracker II)
File Name: winter_landscape.mod or winter_landscape.xm
Why the Confusion?
The name Josef Jahn is very similar to Jogeir, and in the early
digital music archives (like The Mod Archive or Aminet), metadata
could sometimes be misspelled or attributed to "J. Jahn" in error.
However, Jogeir Liljedahl is the definitive composer he is a
legend in the scene, known for his incredibly melodic and professional-sounding tracker music that pushed the limits of the
Amiga's hardware.
"Winter Landscape" is widely considered a masterpiece of the genre
for its sweeping, cinematic pads and melancholic atmosphere.
Would you like me to find a link to the original module file or a high-quality recording of the track for you? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Well now it's gone off the deep end entirely. It's gone the wrong
way with the date, and it's claiming a different composer (_now_ it
tries to correct me on that!). Jogeir Liljedahl exists as a Mod
composer but there's nothing like winter_landscape.mod or
winter_landscape.xm attributed to him on lists of his modules.
Again no references at all even though it suggests correctly that
it's contradicting lists on The Mod Archive and Aminet. What a load
of BS!
So exactly like I concluded before, if some information's not easy
to find using search engines (unless you know a specific site to
search within like The Mod Archive), the Artificial Idiots will
only feed you unreferenced, completely misleading, BS to make up
for the fact. Of course if you're happy with BS, like many people
seem to be, I guess it's the tool for you!
And yes I'm sure it would have found the correct year of something
like Love Me Do by the Beatles. But it's as quick and easy to do
that with a search engine too, and probably still more reliable.
On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:05:51 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wroteI use more than one AI
Axel <none@not.here> wroteNothing useless about it with the right question
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailedAmazing, people like you post clear examples of useless AI waffle
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
then say it's great. I don't understand how people find it betterTakes a lot more work to find that and that's what the AI is doing
than reading factual information from a reliable source,
when it can easily be feeding you BS.The pretzel's certainly does that, but the google AI doesnt
They all agree "Rod Speed usenet troll". So do I
"The Rod Speed Bot"
https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed
Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious argumentative
figure often labeled a troll. Participants in various newsgroups, particularly UK-based ones like uk.d-i-y, frequently describe him as
an Australian poster who engages in persistent, provocative debates,
leading to killfiles and strong backlash.
Reputation in Usenet
Rod Speed gained notoriety for posting under multiple names to evade
filters, sparking endless arguments rather than genuine discussion.
While some defend him as merely "argumentative" rather than a
deliberate troll, others call him a "senile sociopath" or "arsehole"
for derailing threads. This aligns with classic Usenet trolling traits
like long, miscontextualized replies that drain productive
conversation.
Context of Usenet Trolling
Usenet trolls like those referenced thrive by provoking flames,
ignoring reason, and forcing off-topic focus, with Speed cited as a
prime example from the era before modern moderation. His activity
highlights early internet culture where anonymity fueled such
behavior, distinct from spammers or flamers. Pages and threads
debating "Who or what is Rod Speed" emerged due to his persistence.
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteWhy?
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Interesting
I just asked the chrome ai what the choppers which
have be circling over the towns of griffith, leeton
and narrandara for days have been up to
Initially got a claim that its power line inspection
but when I told it that they are circling over the
towns proper, not power lines, got more waffle
When I told it that they are actually looking for
the murderer from Lake Cargelligo, it finally
agreed with me
And I know that's what they are doing because
thats what the chopper people told someone
who works at the griffith airport, maybe one
of the refuellers. They have been refuelling there
They hover over my house at 3am, every night.
Very understandable
Do you mean the lead sheeting on the roof doesn't work?Probably carting trauma victims to the local hospital complex.
You can see whose chopper it is using flightradar24
On Sun, 08 Feb 2026 09:03:50 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 7/2/2026 3:58 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 10:17:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteHow rude!
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a
detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product
websites.
I use the copilot and chatbot, and I'm careful to store all the
answers. The love letters and sonnet-insults are to die for.
Then do the decent thing and top yourself, soon
......uh?
cop this...
Get fucked...
How Rod, especially when he's lost the argument.
No argument is ever lost
On Sun, 08 Feb 2026 23:24:46 +1100, Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30 >>>>>>>>> ***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date is >>>>>>>>> April
15, 2026.
And it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal
Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on April >>>>>>>>> 15,
2026 to pay for it.
Your amaysim plan:
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are >>>>>>>>> your
new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the >>>>>>>>> end of your current plan cycle.
No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered >>>>>>>> for you
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal"
So they were pulling the plug on your $10/28
days that you had been on for years now ?
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day one
That certainly explains why its not available on their web site
Good luck
No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,
Bet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave
amaysim
fair wait though
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would not >>>>> get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
AI answers provide contextThey make up context, but they don't provide the context of the
original text they've ripped the facts from, which is what I was
talking about. Hence you get innaccurate facts wrapped in context
for something else entirely, which is more misleading than what you
usually get from a human who doesn't know the answer.
your experience is different to mine then
I don't use Google gemini. I just type into the browser address bar. and
for what I ask, I get correct answers. but I can ignore the AI response
of course, and just look at the search results underneath
Rod Speed wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
Interesting
I just asked the chrome ai what the choppers which
have been circling over the towns of griffith, leeton
and narrandara for days have been up to
Initially got a claim that its power line inspection
but when I told it that they are circling over the
towns proper, not power lines, got more waffle
When I told it that they are actually looking for
the murderer from Lake Cargelligo, it finally
agreed with me
And I know that's what they are doing because
thats what the chopper people told someone
who works at the griffith airport, maybe one
of the refuellers. They have been refuelling there
yeah, that variation is probably due to that being a contemporary and current matter, and media reports may be sparse and/or conflicting. but
it's usually correct when asked for factual info and has extensive data
to work with.
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote:
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30 >>>>>>>>>>> ***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date is >>>>>>>>>>> April 15, 2026.
And it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal
Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on April >>>>>>>>>>> 15, 2026 to pay for it.
Your amaysim plan:
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are >>>>>>>>>>> your new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the >>>>>>>>>>> end of your current plan cycle.
No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered >>>>>>>>>> for you
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal"
So they were pulling the plug on your $10/28
days that you had been on for years now ?
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day one
That certainly explains why its not available on their web site
Good luck
No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,
Bet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave
amaysim
fair wait though
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would >>>>>>> not get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
I don't use Google gemini. I just type into the browser address bar.
Me too
and? for what I ask, I get correct answers.
I have had a couple of minor glitches where its a
too general response but that can be due to the
text you type into the address bar
and sometimes
it doesnt offer any ai response at all in that situation
but I can ignore the AI response? of course, and just look at the
search results underneath
Yeah very well implemented
On Sun, 08 Feb 2026 23:24:46 +1100, Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30 >>>>>>>>> ***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date >>>>>>>>> is April
15, 2026.
And it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal
Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on
April 15,
2026 to pay for it.
Your amaysim plan:
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are >>>>>>>>> your
new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the >>>>>>>>> end of? your current plan cycle.
No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered >>>>>>>> for you
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal"
So they were pulling the plug on your $10/28
days that you had been on for years now ?
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day one
That certainly explains why its not available on their web site
Good luck
No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,
Bet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave
amaysim
fair wait though
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would not >>>>> get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a
detailed answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or
product websites.
Interesting
I just asked the chrome ai what the choppers which
have been circling over the towns of griffith, leeton
and narrandara for days have been up to
Initially got a claim that its power line inspection
but when I told it that they are circling over the
towns proper, not power lines, got more waffle
When I told it that they are actually looking for
the murderer from Lake Cargelligo, it finally
agreed with me
And I know that's what they are doing because
thats what the chopper people told someone
who works at the griffith airport, maybe one
of the refuellers. They have been refuelling there
yeah, that variation is probably due to that being a contemporary and
current matter, and media reports may be sparse and/or conflicting.
And the cops have been very tight lipped about what they
are up to for obvious reasons, even when an ex cop rang
them and asked they what they are up to. Not clear if the
individual who fielded the question was made aware that
he is an ex cop or even if they could be sure about that
given that they didnt know him personally, likely not
given that he rang the cop shop, not the individial itself
I have also found out that they pulled over a mate of mine
and told him that they are doing that with everyone.
I havent been driving around myself and another
mate of mine who is out and about quite a bit hasnt
said anything about it and no one on facebook has
said that even tho there has been quite a bit of
comment and speculation on facebook
They have also arrested someone else in one of the
posher areas of griffith using 3 cop cars, which has
also confused the comments on the local facebook
community noticeboard
but? it's usually correct when asked for factualinfo and has
extensive data? to work with.
It isnt actually that easy to include whats on facebook
and impossible to check the provinance most of the time
On Mon, 09 Feb 2026 02:15:01 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2026 23:24:46 +1100, Axel <none@not.here> wrote:Like phantom ones?
Rod Speed wrote:Depends on the form of the assets
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteif you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteBet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteAnd it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal >>>>>>>>>> Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on April >>>>>>>>>> 15,
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30 >>>>>>>>>> ***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date is >>>>>>>>>> April
15, 2026.
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,days that you had been on for years now ?I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal" >>>>>>> So they were pulling the plug on your $10/282026 to pay for it.No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered >>>>>>>>> for you
Your amaysim plan:
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are >>>>>>>>>> your
new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the >>>>>>>>>> end of your current plan cycle.
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day one >>>>>>> That certainly explains why its not available on their web site >>>>>>>> Good luck
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
amaysim
fair wait thoughI'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would not >>>>>> get it?
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote:
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30 >>>>>>>>>>> ***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date is >>>>>>>>>>> April? 15, 2026.
And it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal
Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on >>>>>>>>>>> April
15,? 2026 to pay for it.
Your amaysim plan:
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are >>>>>>>>>>> your? new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the >>>>>>>>>>> end of? your current plan cycle.
No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered >>>>>>>>>> for you
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal"
So they were pulling the plug on your $10/28
days that you had been on for years now ?
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day >>>>>>>>> one
That certainly explains why its not available on their web site
Good luck
No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,
Bet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave
amaysim
fair wait though
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner
would not? get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:I doubt it. You probably just don't know/care when it's got things
your experience is different to mine thenAI answers provide contextThey make up context, but they don't provide the context of the
original text they've ripped the facts from, which is what I was
talking about. Hence you get innaccurate facts wrapped in context
for something else entirely, which is more misleading than what you
usually get from a human who doesn't know the answer.
wrong because the AI makes it sound good. But that's your problem.
I don't use Google gemini. I just type into the browser address bar. andSo just the function built into Google's web search? I switched to
for what I ask, I get correct answers. but I can ignore the AI response
of course, and just look at the search results underneath
Duck Duck Go years ago so I haven't seen that, but Google Gemini
is supposed to be their dedicated chatbot service so it should be
as good or better than what they give you in web searches. Anyway
I've seen for myself that it's as useless as ChatGPT for what I'd
like it to do to help me dig up obscure information (that's not
BS).
I'd already seen other people's evidence of that for all the
common AI chatbots anyway.
Then even if it didn't make things up accidentally like that, with advertising companies like Google running the AIs it's inevitable
that answers will be skewed at some point (if not already) to serve advertisers. So, potentially much more subtly than sponsored search
results, facts will be bent by the chatbots so they get to mention
a sponsored topic more often. Maybe even peripherally - eg. mention
the town where a hotel is paying for "mentions" when talking about
a historical event, in order to drive more tourism there. The scope
for subtle, but very effective, manipulation is enormous, and will
have unintended consequences.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:Extensive data which you can just read yourself in search results
Axel <none@not.here> wroteyeah, that variation is probably due to that being a contemporary and
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a detailedInteresting
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product websites.
I just asked the chrome ai what the choppers which
have been circling over the towns of griffith, leeton
and narrandara for days have been up to
Initially got a claim that its power line inspection
but when I told it that they are circling over the
towns proper, not power lines, got more waffle
When I told it that they are actually looking for
the murderer from Lake Cargelligo, it finally
agreed with me
And I know that's what they are doing because
thats what the chopper people told someone
who works at the griffith airport, maybe one
of the refuellers. They have been refuelling there
current matter, and media reports may be sparse and/or conflicting. but
it's usually correct when asked for factual info and has extensive data
to work with.
and not be mislead by things it's made up or misinterpreted. If
there are no good search results, it just tells you nonsense
like that anyway.
But the fact that Rod Speed likes a bot that agrees with him
when he corrects it doesn't surprise me at all!
On Mon, 09 Feb 2026 07:43:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteI'll bet.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
Rod Speed wrote:Depends on the form of the assets
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteif you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteBet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave >>>>>> amaysim
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteAnd it will be interesting to see what they charge on the renewal >>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure you have enough funds in your amaysim account on April >>>>>>>>>>>> 15, 2026 to pay for it.
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
By the way Rod I found out Amysim have 90 day accounts for $30 >>>>>>>>>>>> ***************
Thank you for ordering Unlimited 4GB. Your next renewal date is >>>>>>>>>>>> April 15, 2026.
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,days that you had been on for years now ?I rang them when they were trying to scam me for a $25 28 "deal" >>>>>>>>> So they were pulling the plug on your $10/28Your amaysim plan:No sign of that on their web site, presumably its grandfathered >>>>>>>>>>> for you
Your renewal cycle is 90 days.
Renew your plan early at any time.
If you switch to a bigger plan, the switch is immediate as are >>>>>>>>>>>> your new data inclusions.
If you switch to a smaller plan, the switch will happen at the >>>>>>>>>>>> end of your current plan cycle.
I'll ring them today
Thanks for that
I wondered how long they would let you keep that for
ALDI had same deal but for 30 days and with Telstra.No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
So I were going to tell them to get knotted
Thats when they came out wit a deal better tham my $10, 28 day one >>>>>>>>> That certainly explains why its not available on their web site >>>>>>>>>> Good luck
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
fair wait thoughI'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would >>>>>>>> not get it?
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
Waddabout the gold bricks stacks under the mattress?
No chance they will offer that to me because I only have
the free pay as you go for my backup phone and have had
that for years now
I suspect were sent to a India run help service,
Bet it was the group that you get sent to if you threaten to leave >>>>>> amaysim
fair wait though
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner
would not? get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
ahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope
stashed away? :)
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
I don't use Google gemini. I just type into the browser address bar. and >>> for what I ask, I get correct answers. but I can ignore the AI responseSo just the function built into Google's web search? I switched to
of course, and just look at the search results underneath
Duck Duck Go years ago so I haven't seen that, but Google Gemini
is supposed to be their dedicated chatbot service so it should be
as good or better than what they give you in web searches. Anyway
I've seen for myself that it's as useless as ChatGPT for what I'd
like it to do to help me dig up obscure information (that's not
BS).
see there's the problem. you're seeking obscure information, and I'm
asking for facts.
like what's the date of xxx event,
or the bash code for xxx for example.
of course the answer will reflect the difficulty of the task.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
yeah, that variation is probably due to that being a contemporary andExtensive data which you can just read yourself in search results
current matter, and media reports may be sparse and/or conflicting. but
it's usually correct when asked for factual info and has extensive data
to work with.
and spend considerable time wading thru 'extensive data' on various websites, when you could have the answer in seconds with AI. makes no
sense to me, and most ppl I would suggest.
and not be mislead by things it's made up or misinterpreted. If
there are no good search results, it just tells you nonsense
like that anyway.
I don't believe AI 'makes up stuff'. I think it just forms incorrect conclusions from it's sources
Rod Speed wrote:
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
ahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope
stashed away :)
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
yeah, that variation is probably due to that being a contemporary andExtensive data which you can just read yourself in search results
current matter, and media reports may be sparse and/or conflicting. but >>>> it's usually correct when asked for factual info and has extensive data >>>> to work with.
and spend considerable time wading thru 'extensive data' on various
websites, when you could have the answer in seconds with AI. makes no
sense to me, and most ppl I would suggest.
That's their problem.
and not be mislead by things it's made up or misinterpreted. If
there are no good search results, it just tells you nonsense
like that anyway.
I don't believe AI 'makes up stuff'. I think it just forms incorrect
conclusions from it's sources
AI in this form doesn't form conclusions from anything, it just
shuffles text around in intelligent-sounding sequences. In this
form people are encouraged to take the shuffled-up text as an
answer to the question as if from a human, and in that form it's
equivalent either to a human telling the truth or a human
skillfully making up nonsense. It's not self-aware such as to know
what it's doing either way, but it seems conventional for people to
talk about it as if it were an entity anyway, so it "makes up
stuff". Alternatively you could say it sometimes produces "bad
output", in contrast to something reliable like a calculator.
I don't use Google gemini. I just type into the browser address bar. and
for what I ask, I get correct answers. but I can ignore the AI response
of course, and just look at the search results underneath
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
You're not trying hard enough,
We'll see...
money has no intrinsic value, it's only value is in what it can be
converted into.
I said ASSETS not money
Unless you're intending to˙ endow some worthyinstitution, dying rich
is a foolish thing.
I never said anything about dying rich,
I actually said that that is the reason
I have never bothered to apply for a
pension even tho I could have done
that for more than 15 fucking years
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote:
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
If you go to Indian help service cannot see why a pensioner would >>>>>>> not get it?
I'm not a pensioner, have never bothered to do the paperwork
and get locked into endlessly restating my income and assets
now that I dont have to do tax returns anymore and dont need
the money. I have qualified for a part pension for 15 years.
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
I'm in similar situation where I'm a self funded pensioner.
Still got a "Pensioner Concession Card",
I havent bothered to do the paperwork
a NSW Seniors card which come
in handy with pensioner discounts.
Yeah, I do have that but hardly ever use it anymore
given that I buy the absolute vast bulk of my stuff
from Coles by delivery because they do $2 deliverys
tho it works out to be $3.50 because you have to pay
for just one bag regardless of how many they use.
Woolys charges a minumium of $15, fuck that
<https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/pensioner-concession-card>
Like I said, I'm not a pensioner for a reason and my GP now bulk bills everyone
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
You're not trying hard enough,
?We'll see...
money has no intrinsic value, it's only value is in what it can be
converted into.
?I said ASSETS not money
An asset is something that has value, usually monetary
But still isnt necessarily money
Unless you're intending to? endow some worthy
institution, dying rich? is a foolish thing.
?I never said anything about dying rich,
I actually said that that is the reason
I have never bothered to apply for a
pension even tho I could have done
that for more than 15 fucking years
More fool you.
No poing when I dont need the fucking money, fuckwit
On 7/02/2026 1:38 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
You're not trying hard enough, money has no intrinsic value, it's only
value is in what it can be converted into. Unless you're intending to
endow some worthy institution, dying rich is a foolish thing.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pensionDepends on the form of the assets
stashed away :)
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:That's their problem.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:and spend considerable time wading thru 'extensive data' on various
yeah, that variation is probably due to that being a contemporary andExtensive data which you can just read yourself in search results
current matter, and media reports may be sparse and/or conflicting. but >>>> it's usually correct when asked for factual info and has extensive data >>>> to work with.
websites, when you could have the answer in seconds with AI. makes no
sense to me, and most ppl I would suggest.
AI in this form doesn't form conclusions from anything, it justand not be mislead by things it's made up or misinterpreted. IfI don't believe AI 'makes up stuff'. I think it just forms incorrect
there are no good search results, it just tells you nonsense
like that anyway.
conclusions from it's sources
shuffles text around in intelligent-sounding sequences. In this
form people are encouraged to take the shuffled-up text as an
answer to the question as if from a human, and in that form it's
equivalent either to a human telling the truth or a human
skillfully making up nonsense. It's not self-aware such as to know
what it's doing either way, but it seems conventional for people to
talk about it as if it were an entity anyway, so it "makes up
stuff". Alternatively you could say it sometimes produces "bad
output", in contrast to something reliable like a calculator.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pensionDepends on the form of the assets
stashed away˙ :)
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to do
with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income..
keithr0 wrote:
On 7/02/2026 1:38 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
You're not trying hard enough, money has no intrinsic value, it's only
value is in what it can be converted into. Unless you're intending to
endow some worthy institution, dying rich is a foolish thing.
that's not a problem i will have
On 12/02/2026 3:23 pm, Axel wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension >>>>>>> Depends on the form of the assets
stashed away˙ :)
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to
do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income. :)
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do
with. OTOH he used to go around garages sales to get tat to flog on
FleaBay.
keithr0 wrote:
On 12/02/2026 3:23 pm, Axel wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope >>>>> stashed away˙ :)
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension >>>>>>>> Depends on the form of the assets
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to
do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income. :)
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do
with. OTOH he used to go around garages sales to get tat to flog on
FleaBay.
he's enigmatic and eccentric. probably I (we?) don't know what he's
really like. he brews his own beer, grows vegetables, and I believe
he's a pilot. that's as much as i know about him.
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
I am in the fortunate/skilled situation where I will never be
able to spend my vast accumated assets even if I live to 120
which is very unlikely
You're not trying hard enough, money has no intrinsic value, it's
only value is in what it can be converted into. Unless you're
intending to endow some worthy institution, dying rich is a foolish
thing.
˙that's not a problem i will have
My adviser tells me that my super will run out at age 102.
Impossible to predict that given that it is impossible to know
what govt will have done to the super system by then
And even it fhat turns out to be accurate, you would
still be entitled to a full pension and that would be fine
to live on given that you would presumably not have
a mortage on your house anymore
My mother˙ lasted that long
You are much more likely to be close to your
dad, if he really is your biological dad
so it would be a neat ending.
Nope given the pension and what you do about a nursing home
OTOH on current trends,˙ the house should be worth $2M+ by then
Which should be viable for a nursing home
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Computer Nerd Kev wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
ahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope >>>>> stashed away˙ :)
His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
˙LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to
do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income..
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do˙ with.
Yes
OTOH he used to go around garages sales
Yes
to get tat to flog on˙ FleaBay.
There you go again, fuckwit pom
I have never ever sold anything I have ever bought on ebay or facebook
keithr0 wrote:
On 12/02/2026 3:23 pm, Axel wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope >>>>> stashed away˙ :)
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension >>>>>>>> Depends on the form of the assets
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to
do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income. :)
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do
with. OTOH he used to go around garages sales to get tat to flog on
FleaBay.
he's enigmatic and eccentric. probably I (we?) don't know what he's
really like. he brews his own beer, grows vegetables, and I believe he's
a pilot. that's as much as i know about him.
On 12/02/2026 11:01 pm, Axel wrote:
keithr0 wrote:I've known him on and off for over 30 years, he hasn't changed much in
On 12/02/2026 3:23 pm, Axel wrote:
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wroteahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope >>>>>> stashed away˙ :)
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteNope, dope
Axel <none@not.here> wroteLike phantom ones?
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension >>>>>>>>> Depends on the form of the assets
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to
do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income. :)
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do
with. OTOH he used to go around garages sales to get tat to flog on
FleaBay.
he's enigmatic and eccentric. probably I (we?) don't know what he's
really like. he brews his own beer, grows vegetables, and I believe
he's a pilot. that's as much as i know about him.
that time,
although his spelling has improved.
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Computer Nerd Kev wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
ahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of dope >>>>>>> stashed away˙ :)
His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what to >>>>> do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income. :)
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do
with. OTOH he used to go around garages sales to get tat to flog on
FleaBay.
˙he's enigmatic and eccentric. probably I (we?) don't know what he's
really like. he brews his own beer, grows vegetables, and I believe
he's a pilot. that's as much as i know about him.
I've known him on and off for over 30 years,
But know fuck all about what I have done or how I have done it
he hasn't changed much in˙ that time,
Neither have you, you keep ending up face
down in the mud, time after time after time
although his spelling has improved.
Nope, just changed
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Computer Nerd Kev wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
if you had 'vast assets' you wouldn't qualify for a part >>>>>>>>>>>>> pension
Depends on the form of the assets
Like phantom ones?
Nope, dope
ahh.. that's that's the answer. you have millions of dollars of >>>>>>>>> dope˙ stashed away˙ :)
His "middle name" is probably "on". :)
LOL. hmmm.. lives in Griffith, has more money than he knows what >>>>>>> to do with. I think we've sussed out the source of his income. :)
lives in Griffith, says that more money than he knows what to do
with. OTOH he used to go around garages sales to get tat to flog
on FleaBay.
˙he's enigmatic and eccentric. probably I (we?) don't know what
he's really like. he brews his own beer, grows vegetables, and I
believe he's a pilot. that's as much as i know about him.
I've known him on and off for over 30 years,
˙But know fuck all about what I have done or how I have done it
he hasn't changed much in˙ that time,
˙Neither have you, you keep ending up face
down in the mud, time after time after time
ROTFL, same old phrases recycled from aus.avtech.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag
I haven't come across˙ anybody else from there in years.
I have and still talk to Paul Edwards by email
And came across another in whirlpool
although his spelling has improved.
˙Nope, just changed
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Peter Jason wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a >>>>>>>>>> detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product >>>>>>>>>> websites.
I use the copilot and chatbot, and I'm careful to store all the >>>>>>>>> answers. The love letters and sonnet-insults are to die for.
Then do the decent thing and top yourself, soon
......uh?
cop this...
Get fucked...
How rude!
How Rod, especially when he's lost the argument.
No argument is ever lost
Your superiority complex is flaring up again.
You dont have a fucking clue about how usenet works
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Peter Jason wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
I love it. just ask a question, any question, and you get a >>>>>>>>>>>> detailed
answer. no more searching multiple links, FAQ's, or product >>>>>>>>>>>> websites.
I use the copilot and chatbot, and I'm careful to store all the >>>>>>>>>>> answers.?? The love letters and sonnet-insults are to die for.
Then do the decent thing and top yourself, soon
......uh?
cop this...
Get fucked...
?How rude!
How Rod, especially when he's lost the argument.
No argument is ever lost
Your superiority complex is flaring up again.
You dont have a fucking clue about how usenet works
OK smart boy,
Nof ok dumpster diver
tell me how to fix my network scannerlately not working? after a
Win11 upgrade.
Stsrt sgsin with a clean install so it isnt stuck
with what you fucked up in the previous install
We'll see who has a fugging clue!
We have already seen that you don't
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