Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage is
5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman
with towbar stickingout the back would beÿÿ tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion with
huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer suburban
shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
Looking at recently built tract houses and medium-density units, if
they give you a floor plan, the garage is 5.5x5.5 metres. Some quote
30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So getting a Kia
Tasman in would be near impossible, and a Ranger or Amarok pretty
tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman with towbar sticking out the
back would be tricky.
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion with
huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer suburban
shitboxes get on?
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage
is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman
with towbar stickingout the back would be?? tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion
with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
Ozix wrote:
Looking at recently built tract houses and medium-density units, if
they give you a floor plan, the garage is 5.5x5.5 metres. Some quote
30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So getting a Kia
Tasman in would be near impossible, and a Ranger or Amarok pretty
tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman with towbar sticking out the
back would be tricky.
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion with
huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer suburban
shitboxes get on?
they're parked in the street, or in driveways or on nature strips, everywhere here. but I guess if you have the money to afford those
obnoxious things, you can probably afford to custom build
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
?We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage
is 5.5x5.5 metres.
?Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single garage
you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesman?? with towbar sticking out the back would be tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion
with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
On 5/09/2026 12:28 pm, Axel wrote:
Ozix wrote:A lot of people around here have turned their double garages into "Man caves", and built double car ports in front.
Looking at recently built tract houses and medium-density units, if
they give you a floor plan, the garage is 5.5x5.5 metres. Some quote
30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So getting a
Kia Tasman in would be near impossible, and a Ranger or Amarok
pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman with towbar sticking
out the back would be tricky.
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion
with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
they're parked in the street, or in driveways or on nature strips,
everywhere here. but I guess if you have the money to afford those
obnoxious things, you can probably afford to custom build
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
ÿWe don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage
is 5.5x5.5 metres.
ÿVery few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single garage
you listed
Looking at recently built tract houses and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage is 5.5x5.5 metres. Some quote 30 sqm
for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible, and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even
a 2000s model Statesman with towbar sticking out the back would be tricky. The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion with
huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer suburban
shitboxes get on?
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
?We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the
garage is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing.
So getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single
garage you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
well there's no room for shelves in my garage
Yours isnt recently built and fuck all
new houses have just one garage now
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesman?? with towbar sticking out the back would be tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion >>>>>> with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
Rod Speed wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
ÿWe don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage >>>>> is 5.5x5.5 metres.
ÿVery few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single garage
you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
well there's no room for shelves in my garage
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesmanÿÿ with towbar sticking out the back would be tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion
with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
On 5/9/2026 11:33 am, Ozix wrote:
Looking at recently built tract houses and medium-density units, if
they give you a floor plan, the garage is 5.5x5.5 metres. Some quote
30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So getting a Kia
Tasman in would be near impossible, and a Ranger or Amarok pretty
tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman with towbar sticking out the
back would be tricky.
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion with
huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer suburban
shitboxes get on?
The common size in Vic for most house "double" garages is 5.5m wide by
6.0m deep which is easily big enough for a dual cab ute, 5.5 deep would6m width would be very uncomfortable if you had 2 largish utes or similar.
be very tight for a current model Ranger or Hilux but they should just fit.
Rod Speed wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
ÿWe don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the
garage is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. >>>>>>> So getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single
garage you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
well there's no room for shelves in my garage
Yours isnt recently built and fuck all
new houses have just one garage now
many do because they're for retirees or single people
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesmanÿÿ with towbar sticking out the back would be tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion >>>>>>> with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
?We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the
garage is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. >>>>>>>> So getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single
garage you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
well there's no room for shelves in my garage
Yours isnt recently built and fuck all
new houses have just one garage now
many do because they're for retirees or single people
Can't think of a single garage house built here in the
hundreds of new houses built here in the last 20 years
and I have driven those new subdivisions repeatedly
for garage sales and when a mate of mine who was
considering buying one but ended building a massive
great place with a double garage instead.
And its trivial to check that there are fuck all using google street view
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesman?? with towbar sticking out the back would be
tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have
mansion with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those
new outer suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
On 5/9/2026 3:12 pm, Axel wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:Most of the new estates here seem to be favouring double garages.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
ÿWe don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the
garage is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. >>>>>>>> So getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single
garage you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
well there's no room for shelves in my garage
Yours isnt recently built and fuck all
new houses have just one garage now
many do because they're for retirees or single people
Around the 2000s, not so much. A lot of the new homes we were looking
at in our near vicinity were units and they went with single garages
as a rule. Difficult to find a 2000s unit with a double garage. In a
house on a standard block, double was common. BTW, std block here is
800m+.
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesmanÿÿ with towbar sticking out the back would be
tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have
mansion with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those
new outer suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage is
5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman
with towbar stickingout the back would be?? tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion with
huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer suburban
shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the drivewa
Xeno wrote:
On 5/9/2026 3:12 pm, Axel wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:Most of the new estates here seem to be favouring double garages.
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
ÿWe don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the >>>>>>>>> garage is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. >>>>>>>>> So getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
It is the length that is the issue most times.
The double and triple garages are much deeper than that single
garage you listed
Put a few shelves either side and width becomes an issue as well.
Fantasy and I have been to plenty for garage sales
well there's no room for shelves in my garage
Yours isnt recently built and fuck all
new houses have just one garage now
many do because they're for retirees or single people
they do. they cater for families
Around the 2000s, not so much. A lot of the new homes we were looking
at in our near vicinity were units and they went with single garages
as a rule. Difficult to find a 2000s unit with a double garage. In a
house on a standard block, double was common. BTW, std block here is
800m+.
that's big. google doesn't seem to agree tho for Coffs in general
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s
modelStatesmanÿÿ with towbar sticking out the back would be >>>>>>>>> tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have
mansion with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those >>>>>>>>> new outer suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the driveway
Rod Speed wrote:
Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote
Looking at recently built tract houses
We don't have anything like that here
and medium-density units, if they give you a floor plan, the garage
is 5.5x5.5 metres.
Very few don't have double garages now
Some quote 30 sqm for garage, which seems to be the same thing. So
getting a Kia Tasman in would be near impossible,
Bullshit with a double garage and plenty with double garages
don't bother to keep their cars in the garage anyway
and a Ranger or Amarok pretty tight fit. Even a 2000s model Statesman
with towbar stickingout the back would beÿÿ tricky.
Those mostly have the sticking out bit removable so
you can trivially put it back when you tow something
and the tradesmen who mostly are the owners of the
dual cabs normally have the trailer on all the time
and just park it in the street in front of the house
The rich bastards who have a Maybach would obviously have mansion
with huge garage, but how do tradies living in those new outer
suburban shitboxes get on?
They just park on the steet or the drivewa
Rod Speed is just saying be The King hire a qualified draftsman to
design you garage and present the plans to the council
The council do require a qualified draftsman these days,
i grew up when anyone could still file plans with council, so at school
i learned technical drawing
yep. but it's ridiculous the size of garages (and rooms) in modern
homes. it's all done to reduce cost.
I have only a medium size SUV but
it barely fits in the single garage of this house, which was built in
the 90's
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Axel wrote
yep. but it's ridiculous the size of garages (and rooms) in modern
homes. it's all done to reduce cost.
They've been a standard size for a very long time,
There is no standard size
and "cost" isn't the factor.
Corse it is
The problem is that it's not garages getting smaller,
That does happen with block sizes reducing
but cars getting bigger.
That too
I have only a medium size SUV but it barely fits in the single garage
of this house, which was built in the 90's
You just contradicted yourself. Your house is 30+ years old, yet the
garage is "small" :)
Like everything else, Garage sizes are set to a standard,
Bullshit they are
and the standard size for a single house garage is 3 mtrs wide by 5.5
mtrs long
Bullshit
which is roughly the same size as a generic parking lot space, and
they've been this size for decades.
Bullshit
the problem is that while garages remain the same size they have for
years, cars get fatter all the time.
Look at yours for example. You have an MG ZS which is *not* a "medium
sized SUV" as you claim, but rather a *Small* SUZ. Compared to a genuine >> medium size SUV like a Kia Sportage or a Maxda CX5 your ZS is quite
small, yet as you say it barely fits into garage of a house built 30 odd >> years ago when such cars never existed.
It's not the garage size. It's the cars :)
Wrong with double and triple garages
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Axel wrote
yep. but it's ridiculous the size of garages (and rooms) in modern
homes. it's all done to reduce cost.
They've been a standard size for a very long time,
There is no standard size
There is a *minimum legal size* for double garages and that is typically
5.4 x 5.4 metres depending on jurisdiction.
Buf you are free to make it any size you like
by not calling it a double and are free to make
a single much smaller than normal by saying
its for a motorbike or ebike etc
and "cost" isn't theÿÿ factor.
Corse it is
The problem is that it's not garages getting smaller,
That does happen with block sizes reducing
but carsÿÿ getting bigger.
That too
I have only a medium size SUV but it barely fits in the single garage >>>>> of this house, which was built in the 90's
You just contradicted yourself. Your house is 30+ years old, yet the
garage is "small" :)
Like everything else, Garage sizes are set to a standard,
Bullshit they are
and the standard size for a single house garage is 3 mtrs wide by 5.5
mtrs long
Bullshit
which is roughly the same size as a generic parking lot space, and
they've been this size for decades.
Bullshit
the problem is that while garages remain the same size they have for
years, cars get fatter all the time.
Look at yours for example. You have an MG ZS which is *not* a "medium
sized SUV" as you claim, but rather a *Small* SUZ. Compared to a
genuine
medium size SUV like a Kia Sportage or a Maxda CX5 your ZS is quite
small, yet as you say it barely fits into garage of a house built 30
odd
years ago when such cars never existed.
It's not the garage size. It's the cars :)
Wrong with double and triple garages
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Axel wrote
yep. but it's ridiculous the size of garages (and rooms) in modern >>>>>>> homes. it's all done to reduce cost.
They've been a standard size for a very long time,
There is no standard size
There is a *minimum legal size* for double garages and that is
typicallyÿÿ 5.4 x 5.4 metres depending on jurisdiction.
Buf you are free to make it any size you like
by not calling it a double and are free to make
a single much smaller than normal by saying
its for a motorbike or ebike etc
I never said you weren't able to.
You did ignorantly claim that there is a
legal minimum size for a double garage
in many jurisdictions and I pointed out
that it's trivial to not call it a double
garage and to make it any size you like
Councils rule that as a minimumsizeÿÿ for a listed 2 car garage.
And I pointed out that it's trivial
to not call it a double garage
and to make it any size you like
You can extend that by however much you want.
So all you have to do is call it a garage and make
that any sized you like and use it as a 2 car garage
For instance, another 50% on the length and you have yourself
aworkshopÿÿ area. Adjusting sizes larger always comes at a cost,
Not necessarily depending on how the house itself
is done most obviouisly in a hilly area where the
garage is under the house as many are in hilly areas
so much per squareÿÿ metre as a rule.
Bullshit that's a rule, depending on how the house
itself is done most obviouisly in a hilly area where the
garage is under the house as many are in hilly areas
Also there will be a penalty if the floorplanÿÿ dimensions are outside
standards,
There are no such standards
truss sections for instance.
There aren't even standard truss sizes
and its trivial to do trusses any size you
like starting with lumber or metal
I wasÿÿ going through all this when I discovered the areaI planned to
build wasÿÿ getting fibre to the node. So I wentout and found an
existing houseÿÿ that fitted the bill - NBNwent live the day we
settled and I booked in an installationimmediately.
I just looked up the sizes of garages here;
Irrelevant to what's legal and you are free to make
it any size you like by not calling it a double and are
free to make a single much smaller than normal
by saying its for a motorbike or ebike etc
ÿÿÿ The minimum double garage size in Coffs Harbour is 5.4m x 5.4m,
ÿÿÿ which complies strictly with Australian Standard AS 2890.1 for
ÿÿÿ off-street car parking. In addition, the City of Coffs Harbour
ÿÿÿ requires a minimum vertical clearance of 2.3 metres for internal
ÿÿÿ parking spaces.
So, a *standard* definitely exists.
That's not a standard, thats a legal minimum
and you are free to make it any size you like
by not calling it a double and are free to make
a single much smaller than normal by saying
its for a motorbike or ebike etc
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