• Re: OMG

    From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 21:44:45


    On 15/7/2026 9:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 4/07/2026 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:



    *You* publicly solicited for work,

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    you gave a price of $100, so not a favor, a job ie. work

    Yeah, and if you bothered to drive all the way over here I wouldn't have charged you as I've said before.

    It's academic anyway Felix. You squibbed. End of story.
    It isn't academic Darren. You offered a service for a fee on the basis
    of your *claimed* trade qualifications. You have no qualifications so
    the offer was fraudulent from the get go.

    Felix showed wisdom in "squibbing".

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 21:51:02


    On 15/7/2026 9:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be running
    a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.

    I went into *semi* retirement when I sold the business and eventually

    You never had a legitimate business in automotive.

    moved out here, and went into full time retirement when I turned 60
    which was 3 and a bit years ago.

    Yeah, that was after the VACC got onto you, right? They really don't
    like frauds claiming to be members of their organisation, brings the
    industry into disrepute doncha know!>
    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I

    Bullshit!

    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him. Had

    Bullshit! Man it's flowing thick and fast here today!

    he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have done it for free, and he could have learned all about me while he was here.

    More bullshit. Would have been a costly learning exercise!>
    But as we all know, he wasn't interested. Either way, if he was it would have been between me and *him* and is none of *your* fucking business.

    You made the offer publicly here. You made the multiple claims of qualifications here publicly. Ergo, you made your fraudulent offer
    *everyone's business*.>
    Anyone else? Right, then shut the fuck up you clueless juvenile.

    <invented bullshit flushed>

    Yeah, flush your *own* bullshit *before* you post, there's a good chap!

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 21:53:23
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 4/07/2026 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:



    *You* publicly solicited for work,

    Bzzzt. Wrong.

    Really? You have claimed that you advertised the fabled NA in a "local"
    paper. Isn't that "publicly soliciting"?

    I offered to do Felix a favour.

    You charge for favours?


    oty

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:01:45


    On 15/7/2026 9:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 4/07/2026 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:



    *You* publicly solicited for work,

    Bzzzt. Wrong.

    Really? You have claimed that you advertised the fabled NA in a "local" paper. Isn't that "publicly soliciting"?

    Ooops, he just proved liars need a good memory.>
    I offered to do Felix a favour.

    You charge for favours?

    Yeah, he's slimy like that!>
    oty


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:06:55
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 4/07/2026 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:



    *You* publicly solicited for work,

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    you gave a price of $100, so not a favor, a job ie. work

    Yeah, and if you bothered to drive all the way over here I wouldn't have charged you as I've said before.

    It's academic anyway Felix. You squibbed. End of story.

    This is life Gibbens. Just because you started a story doesn't mean that
    you get to end it.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:50:23
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be running
    a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.

    I went into *semi* retirement when I sold the business and eventually
    moved out here, and went into full time retirement when I turned 60
    which was 3 and a bit years ago.

    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I
    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him.
    Had he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have done
    it for free, and he could have learned all about me while he was here.


    what a load of garbage

    But as we all know, he wasn't interested. Either way, if he was it
    would have been between me and *him* and is none of *your* fucking
    business.

    whatever you post in a public forum is anyone's business


    Anyone else? Right, then shut the fuck up you clueless juvenile.

    <invented bullshit flushed>



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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:52:28
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 9:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.

    I went into *semi* retirement when I sold the business and eventually

    You never had a legitimate business in automotive.

    moved out here, and went into full time retirement when I turned 60
    which was 3 and a bit years ago.

    Yeah, that was after the VACC got onto you, right? They really don't
    like frauds claiming to be members of their organisation, brings the industry into disrepute doncha know!>
    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I

    Bullshit!

    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him. Had

    Bullshit! Man it's flowing thick and fast here today!

    he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have done it
    for free, and he could have learned all about me while he was here.

    More bullshit. Would have been a costly learning exercise!>
    But as we all know, he wasn't interested. Either way, if he was it
    would have been between me and *him* and is none of *your* fucking
    business.

    You made the offer publicly here. You made the multiple claims of qualifications here publicly. Ergo, you made your fraudulent offer *everyone's business*.>
    Anyone else? Right, then shut the fuck up you clueless juvenile.

    <invented bullshit flushed>

    Yeah, flush your *own* bullshit *before* you post, there's a good chap!


    LOL

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 23:51:03
    On 15/07/2026 10:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:


    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I
    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him.
    Had he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have done
    it for free, and he could have learned all about me while he was here.


    what a load of garbage

    I offered, and you declined. Where's the garbage? :)

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:14:29
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 4/07/2026 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:



    *You* publicly solicited for work,

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    you gave a price of $100, so not a favor, a job ie. work

    Yeah, and if you bothered to drive all the way over here I wouldn't have charged you as I've said before.

    It's academic anyway Felix. You squibbed. End of story.





    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim you
    are qualified and it's on public record.





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    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:26:50
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be running
    a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 15, 2026 22:30:07
    On 15/07/2026 8:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be running
    a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.

    I went into *semi* retirement when I sold the business and eventually
    moved out here, and went into full time retirement when I turned 60
    which was 3 and a bit years ago.

    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I
    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him.
    Had he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have done
    it for free, and he could have learned all about me while he was here.


    what a load of garbage

    But as we all know, he wasn't interested. Either way, if he was it
    would have been between me and *him* and is none of *your* fucking
    business.

    whatever you post in a public forum is anyone's business



    Of course it is.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:05:56
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim you
    are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever seen a more pathetic whining little cunt than this?
    *Still* hurting from the utter spanking I gave you a couple of weeks ago
    I see :)




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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:08:08
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be running
    a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off over
    here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:32:27
    On 15/07/2026 7:20 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:37 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:57 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 4:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, plagiarist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you calling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you?

    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whackos that the internet has enabled is cowardly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, you just don't seem to be able to comprehend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, unlike yourself, there are people who have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urge to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been to boast about the expensive cars that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of my new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its three >>>>>>> predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. But
    thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business for
    30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in Indonesia and >>>
    Yes, for Inco at their nickel mine at Soroako in South Sulawesi.

    How is working for NASA more of a boast than that?

    Have you ever worked at a minesite? As a mechanic? Nothing to boast
    about there, let me assure you. >
    not only taught courses for mechanics but was largely responsible
    for setting the curriculum. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    I taught *apprentices*. The mechanics courses were developed by a few
    of my colleagues. And, no, I never set the curriculum, that was done
    centrally. Initially state but federally from ~2000. My role was
    identifying competencies in specific areas and some curriculum
    writing. That was a *federal* project that was disbursed out to
    various colleges. Every teacher does that sort of thing in some form
    or other so, not a boast.



    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No, not a boast, statements of fact.

    So is having worked for NASA in the distant past. So why is one a
    boast and the other not?

    What are boasts are Daryl's claims of owning Porches, Benzs and the
    like - time expired all and saved from the wholesale scrappers.

    Owning an elderly Marc and Porsche is not exactly the same as boasting
    of owning a new one.

    strutting around *pretending* is.

    "strutting around *pretending*", Gawd, you've gone through the bottom of
    the barrel, and into the wood. Wake up to yourself, you're make yourself
    look like an idiot.

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    For Clocky and I, that was a reality. For me it was in the mid 70s at
    a Holden dealer.>

    So you could change a clutch in 26 minutes too? That's more of a boast
    than having a job with NASA along with hundreds of others with some
    aptitude for electronics.

    By your attitude, when anybody who isn't in your little club says
    anything anything about themselves, they have to be boasting, however
    your friends say anything, no matter how boastful, that's OK. What a
    twisted philosophy you have.



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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:36:18
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, for >>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, >>>>>>>> but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for
    myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or >>>>>>>> why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping.
    regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall making >>>>>>>> any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm not
    interested in trying to justify everything I do or fail to do, >>>>>>>> since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so
    what's the point of making issues of the trivialities that are >>>>>>>> carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet? >>>>>>
    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being clever,
    but he worked at it, got to university, and became a geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more
    educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of evidence
    of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack practical
    judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:40:48
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful
    business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast. >>>>>>>>>> Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can
    change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, >>>>>>>>> but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for
    myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or >>>>>>>>> why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping.
    regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall
    making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm >>>>>>>>> not interested in trying to justify everything I do or fail to >>>>>>>>> do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so >>>>>>>>> what's the point of making issues of the trivialities that are >>>>>>>>> carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that >>>>>>>> yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another >>>>>> example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being clever, >>>>> but he worked at it, got to university, and became a geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more
    educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack practical
    judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125 can't make it
    go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn, for example.

    That's a cop out. Most people never realise their full potential, they
    get to some level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much
    trouble to go further.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:42:20
    On 15/07/2026 7:24 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was
    largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, for >>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for >>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, but >>>>>> I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for myself as a >>>>>> result of being under attack from the usual culprits. saying you
    worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or why it was mentioned
    could be considered name dropping. regarding what the others above >>>>>> have said, I don't recall making any comments. anyhow, the bottom >>>>>> line for me is that I'm not interested in trying to justify
    everything I do or fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, >>>>>> and no one is anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the >>>>>> trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you will >>>>>>> need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system
    for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then most >>>>>>> people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some friends
    of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at it, got
    to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!


    Yet another post with zero content, a complete waste of bandwidth.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:43:07
    On 15/07/2026 9:17 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    Klokko the clown rushes in with his usual dose of negativity as usual.

    nup. just stating fact

    ROTFL :)

    You and facts. Maybe one day you'll work out what one is :)

    Troll

    Mirror.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 08:52:32
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:35 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:00 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 1:21 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 3:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, plagiarist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you calling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you?

    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whackos that the internet has enabled is cowardly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, you just don't seem to be able to comprehend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, unlike yourself, there are people who have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urge to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been to boast about the expensive cars that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of my new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its three >>>>>>> predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)


    Then, of course there is

    https://imgur.com/a/MJlzvHo

    Enjoy your crow.



    None of which are "boasts" dickhead.

    Klokko the clown sticks his oar in for no apparent reason.

    must be taking a leaf from your book. you do it often

    Ooh bitchy! The girls club is certainly the place for you.

    just stating fact

    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 09:23:31
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 10:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:


    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I
    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him.
    Had he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have
    done it for free, and he could have learned all about me while he
    was here.


    what a load of garbage

    I offered, and you declined. Where's the garbage? :)


    your spin. "Oh I wasn't really gonna charge him"

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 09:24:16
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 4/07/2026 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:



    *You* publicly solicited for work,

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    you gave a price of $100, so not a favor, a job ie. work

    Yeah, and if you bothered to drive all the way over here I wouldn't
    have charged you as I've said before.

    It's academic anyway Felix. You squibbed. End of story.





    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim
    you are qualified and it's on public record.



    yep!


    --
    Linux Mint 22.3


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 09:51:51
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off over
    here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in public) as
    a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do you agree, and
    that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this reality? or are
    you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts noddy, as you've
    always been. (read previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 10:00:22
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just
    another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more
    educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack
    practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not
    the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't have
    what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our physiology,
    which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 10:05:16
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful
    business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for >>>>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned
    that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility >>>>>>>>>> for myself as a result of being under attack from the usual >>>>>>>>>> culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a
    system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised
    that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is
    just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means
    having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While
    it's true they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant
    person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may
    lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are
    not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125 can't
    make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn, for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of 125
    can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    --
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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 10:25:29


    On 15/7/2026 11:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 10:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:


    "soliciting for work" would involve general advertising which I have
    never done here. In Felix's case it was a one time offer that I
    suspected he'd never take me up on anyway because he is a remarkable
    tight arse which is why I threw the hundred buck fee in to test him.
    Had he grown a pair and decided to take me up on it I would have done
    it for free, and he could have learned all about me while he was here.


    what a load of garbage

    I offered, and you declined. Where's the garbage? :)

    You offered on the basis of a $100 cash payment, you refused to prove
    you were qualified, Felix refused your offer because you couldn't
    confirm you were legit. Lots of truth in that, the garbage is all yours.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 10:54:21
    On 15-Jul-26 7:24 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was
    largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, for >>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for >>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, but >>>>>> I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for myself as a >>>>>> result of being under attack from the usual culprits. saying you
    worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or why it was mentioned
    could be considered name dropping. regarding what the others above >>>>>> have said, I don't recall making any comments. anyhow, the bottom >>>>>> line for me is that I'm not interested in trying to justify
    everything I do or fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, >>>>>> and no one is anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the >>>>>> trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you will >>>>>>> need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system
    for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then most >>>>>>> people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some friends
    of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at it, got
    to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And those two words say plenty about *you*, even though you don`t
    realise the fact!!.





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    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 10:56:56
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for >>>>>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility >>>>>>>>>>> for myself as a result of being under attack from the usual >>>>>>>>>>> culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is
    just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means
    having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While
    it's true they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant
    person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may
    lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are
    not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125 can't
    make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn, for example. >>>
    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some level
    acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of 125
    can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    Some evidence of that?

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 11:08:44
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just
    another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more >>>>> educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack
    practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not
    the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't have
    what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our physiology,
    which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try? I was unable to be a pilot because I was slightly
    short sighted. The airforce in the late 50s still had a lot of WWII
    pilots and were over-run with teenaged boys applying to be pilots so
    were very choosy. There was no possible way of doing it privately since neither I or my family had the money for that.


    I did get a glider pilot's licence through the Air Cadets, and have
    flown a number of planes (with a qualified pilot). Never got a power
    plane licence, at first couldn't afford it, then didn't have the time,
    now being diabetic, CASA won't give me a licence anyway.

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 11:47:42
    On 16-Jul-26 8:32 AM, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:20 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:37 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:57 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 4:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you calling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been to boast about the expensive cars that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its three >>>>>>>> predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. But >>>>> thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business for >>>>> 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in Indonesia and >>>>
    Yes, for Inco at their nickel mine at Soroako in South Sulawesi.

    How is working for NASA more of a boast than that?

    Have you ever worked at a minesite? As a mechanic? Nothing to boast
    about there, let me assure you. >
    not only taught courses for mechanics but was largely responsible
    for setting the curriculum. But, for some reason, that's not a boast. >>>>
    I taught *apprentices*. The mechanics courses were developed by a
    few of my colleagues. And, no, I never set the curriculum, that was
    done centrally. Initially state but federally from ~2000. My role
    was identifying competencies in specific areas and some curriculum
    writing. That was a *federal* project that was disbursed out to
    various colleges. Every teacher does that sort of thing in some form
    or other so, not a boast.



    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No, not a boast, statements of fact.

    So is having worked for NASA in the distant past. So why is one a
    boast and the other not?

    What are boasts are Daryl's claims of owning Porches, Benzs and the
    like - time expired all and saved from the wholesale scrappers.

    Owning an elderly Marc and Porsche is not exactly the same as
    boasting of owning a new one.

    strutting around *pretending* is.

    "strutting around *pretending*", Gawd, you've gone through the bottom of
    the barrel, and into the wood. Wake up to yourself, you're make yourself look like an idiot.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Minimum "book time" for a clutch change is 'Three Hours'

    For Clocky and I, that was a reality.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What a load of shit!. BTW, how do *you* know what wally was capable of?. (Clutch changes in 26m, whoo hoo, Neither *him* nor *YOU*)

    For me it was in the mid 70s
    at a Holden dealer.>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In a Timed, competitive situation, as a group/team effort on an '70's
    Holden maybe... But in a day to day work situation....*BULLSHIT*.????


    So you could change a clutch in 26 minutes too? That's more of a
    boast than having a job with NASA along with hundreds of others with
    some aptitude for electronics.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    More than a *Boast*, utter *bullshit.*

    By your attitude, when anybody who isn't in your little club says
    anything anything about themselves, they have to be boasting, however
    your friends say anything, no matter how boastful, that's OK. What a
    twisted philosophy you have.




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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 11:54:42
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't). >>>>
    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off over
    here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in public) as
    a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do you agree, and
    that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this reality? or are
    you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....





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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:03:51
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit.



    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't). >>>>
    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off over
    here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in public) as
    a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do you agree, and
    that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this reality? or are
    you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could have
    made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a welder.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:06:06
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't have
    what it takes.

    You state the obvious.

    we are all limited in what we can do by our physiology,
    which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    No, we are not. That's an excuse *you* like to use to justify being a dickhead. That's clearly where you're happy, and if so kudos to you, but
    if you think that's what you're *limited* to then you're off your nut.





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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:08:28
    On 16/07/2026 9:23 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    what a load of garbage

    I offered, and you declined. Where's the garbage? :)


    your spin. "Oh I wasn't really gonna charge him"

    There is no spin Felix. Had you turned up I wouldn't have charged you.
    Believe that or not as you see fit.



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:13:12
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off over
    here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in public) as
    a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim.

    Even if that were true Felix, so what? What point are you trying to make
    here?

    so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this reality?

    *What* reality?

    or are you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts noddy, as you've
    always been. (read previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    Maybe you could give Keith a heads up by telling him what it is that you
    want him to reply *about*? It's no secret that I offered to repair your muffler for a hundred bucks Felix, and despite all the gob you're
    offering up about it today it was your "mechanic mates" who talked you
    out of taking me up on that.

    And the prospect of paying a hundred bucks :)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:15:47
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my
    Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in
    public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do
    you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this
    reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts
    noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in the thread if
    you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system can't
    be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad his
    exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair
    themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:56:16


    On 16/7/2026 8:36 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful
    business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast. >>>>>>>>>> Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can
    change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, >>>>>>>>> but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for
    myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or >>>>>>>>> why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping.
    regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall
    making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm >>>>>>>>> not interested in trying to justify everything I do or fail to >>>>>>>>> do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so >>>>>>>>> what's the point of making issues of the trivialities that are >>>>>>>>> carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that >>>>>>>> yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another >>>>>> example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being clever, >>>>> but he worked at it, got to university, and became a geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more
    educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack practical
    judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are

    Since when has that ever been in question. Education for many is
    opportunity, some miss out on the opportunity. Doesn't mean they aren't
    smart.

    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.



    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 12:59:14


    On 16/7/2026 8:40 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to comprehend that, unlike yourself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are people who have no urge to pump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a picture of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful
    business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast. >>>>>>>>>>> Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, >>>>>>>>>> but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for >>>>>>>>>> myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a
    system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that >>>>>>>>> yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just
    another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more >>>>> educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack
    practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not
    the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125 can't
    make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn, for example.

    That's a cop out. Most people never realise their full potential, they

    Define their potential. I know many intelligent people who are quite
    happy to live out their entire lives in *small town* Australia. What is
    their full potential?

    get to some level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much
    trouble to go further.

    Or too costly which is very much the case these days.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:01:05


    On 16/7/2026 8:42 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:24 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was
    largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, for >>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that,
    but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for myself >>>>>>> as a result of being under attack from the usual culprits. saying >>>>>>> you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or why it was
    mentioned could be considered name dropping. regarding what the >>>>>>> others above have said, I don't recall making any comments.
    anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm not interested in
    trying to justify everything I do or fail to do, since I don't
    claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so what's the point of >>>>>>> making issues of the trivialities that are carried on about here? >>>>>>>

    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you will >>>>>>>> need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then
    most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet? >>>>>
    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some friends
    of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at it, got
    to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!


    Yet another post with zero content, a complete waste of bandwidth.

    You use your friend's son as an example but when I did that, it's
    somehow different. Well, Duh!

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    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 11:07:10
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't). >>>>>
    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my
    Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in
    public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do
    you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this
    reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts
    noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in the thread if
    you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your pathetic
    and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have lost all
    integrity by continuing on with it.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:07:46
    On 16/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:42 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:24 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, >>>>>>>> but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for
    myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or >>>>>>>> why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping.
    regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall making >>>>>>>> any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm not
    interested in trying to justify everything I do or fail to do, >>>>>>>> since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so
    what's the point of making issues of the trivialities that are >>>>>>>> carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet? >>>>>>
    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some
    friends of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at
    it, got to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!


    Yet another post with zero content, a complete waste of bandwidth.

    You use your friend's son as an example but when I did that, it's
    somehow different. Well, Duh!

    I don't see an example from you in that thread.

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 11:08:35
    On 16/07/2026 10:08 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:23 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    what a load of garbage

    I offered, and you declined. Where's the garbage? :)


    your spin. "Oh I wasn't really gonna charge him"

    There is no spin Felix. Had you turned up I wouldn't have charged you. Believe that or not as you see fit.




    Makes no difference to the fact that you solicited for work.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 11:12:19
    On 16/07/2026 6:42 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:24 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was
    largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, for >>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that,
    but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for myself >>>>>>> as a result of being under attack from the usual culprits. saying >>>>>>> you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or why it was
    mentioned could be considered name dropping. regarding what the >>>>>>> others above have said, I don't recall making any comments.
    anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm not interested in
    trying to justify everything I do or fail to do, since I don't
    claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so what's the point of >>>>>>> making issues of the trivialities that are carried on about here? >>>>>>>

    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you will >>>>>>>> need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then
    most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet? >>>>>
    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some friends
    of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at it, got
    to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!


    Yet another post with zero content, a complete waste of bandwidth.

    Sounds like the story of your life you miserable heap of sh!t.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:16:56
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim
    you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever seen a more pathetic whining little cunt than this?
    *Still* hurting from the utter spanking I gave you a couple of weeks ago
    I see :)

    What you should be seeing Gibbens is a psychiartrist.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:28:25
    On 16/07/2026 12:59 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:40 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for >>>>>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility >>>>>>>>>>> for myself as a result of being under attack from the usual >>>>>>>>>>> culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is
    just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means
    having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While
    it's true they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant
    person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may
    lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are
    not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125 can't
    make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn, for example. >>>
    That's a cop out. Most people never realise their full potential, they

    Define their potential. I know many intelligent people who are quite
    happy to live out their entire lives in *small town* Australia. What is their full potential?

    Who knows what their potential is, the only way to know what it is is to achieve it. I would have thought that, as the group's self styled intellectual, you'd know that.

    get to some level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much
    trouble to go further.

    Or too costly which is very much the case these days.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:54:00


    On 16/7/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for >>>>>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility >>>>>>>>>>> for myself as a result of being under attack from the usual >>>>>>>>>>> culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is
    just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means
    having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While
    it's true they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant
    person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may
    lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are
    not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125 can't
    make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn, for example. >>>
    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some level
    acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of 125
    can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    IQ does improve with education and with age - up to a point. Then it
    declines with age. More to do with *how* IQ is measured. Won't make a
    genius out of a moron though.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 13:59:28
    On 16/07/2026 1:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:42 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:24 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that, >>>>>>>> but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for
    myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or >>>>>>>> why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping.
    regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall making >>>>>>>> any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm not
    interested in trying to justify everything I do or fail to do, >>>>>>>> since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so
    what's the point of making issues of the trivialities that are >>>>>>>> carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then >>>>>>>>> most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet? >>>>>>
    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some
    friends of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at
    it, got to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!


    Yet another post with zero content, a complete waste of bandwidth.

    Sounds like the story of your life you miserable heap of sh!t.

    Kokko the sad clown feels the need to share his misery yet again.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 14:05:54


    On 16/7/2026 12:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system can't
    be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad his
    exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)
    Darren, you are the bullshit artist here, confirmed.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 14:10:32


    On 16/7/2026 1:28 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:59 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:40 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Munchausen because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for >>>>>>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility >>>>>>>>>>>> for myself as a result of being under attack from the usual >>>>>>>>>>>> culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> then most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills.
    While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated
    person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and
    education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125
    can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn,
    for example.

    That's a cop out. Most people never realise their full potential, they

    Define their potential. I know many intelligent people who are quite
    happy to live out their entire lives in *small town* Australia. What
    is their full potential?

    Who knows what their potential is, the only way to know what it is is to

    That was my point.

    achieve it. I would have thought that, as the group's self styled intellectual, you'd know that.

    I do know that. Your problem with that is a lot of people have no desire
    to realise their full potential - regardless of what that full potential
    might be.>
    get to some level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much
    trouble to go further.

    Or too costly which is very much the case these days.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 14:36:26
    On 16/07/2026 1:54 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Munchausen because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was >>>>>>>>>>>>> largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for >>>>>>>>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. But, >>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility >>>>>>>>>>>> for myself as a result of being under attack from the usual >>>>>>>>>>>> culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, >>>>>>>>>>>> or why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping. >>>>>>>>>>>> regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall >>>>>>>>>>>> making any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not interested in trying to justify everything I do or >>>>>>>>>>>> fail to do, since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, so what's the point of making issues of the
    trivialities that are carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you >>>>>>>>>>>>> will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's >>>>>>>>>>> bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> then most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills.
    While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated
    person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and
    education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125
    can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn,
    for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some
    level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to go
    further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of
    125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    IQ does improve with education and with age - up to a point. Then it declines with age. More to do with *how* IQ is measured. Won't make a
    genius out of a moron though.


    Measured IQ largely depends on the aptitude of the person being tested
    to the particular test. Part way through my apprenticeship we were used
    to evaluate a bunch of different IQ tests. Interestingly the results of
    the tests were largely the inverse of the exam results.

    We had to do tests to get into the scheme, school results were the first filter, then we had to go to London for specific testing. There were
    several papers, basic english - correcting sentences, writing sentences
    on simple subjects etc, high school leaving level maths questions,
    evaluating a bunch of situations shown in pictures (the only one that I remember was 2 drawings of train crashes, on with the wreck on the
    inside of a curve, the other on the outside), lastly we had to bend a
    piece of wire to a complex shape. There were about 50 people tested, 30
    of us made it through.

    What was being tested was aptitude rather than IQ.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 14:41:56
    On 16/07/2026 1:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your pathetic
    and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have lost all
    integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your mate's contentions. Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic to weld an exhaust, I've even done it myself.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 14:53:58
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:24 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its >>>>>>>>>>> three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early 70s. >>>>>>>> But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful business >>>>>>>> for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in
    Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but was
    largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, for some >>>>>>>> reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row.ÿ But,
    for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned that,
    but I'm sure it was just to establish some credibility for
    myself as a result of being under attack from the usual
    culprits. saying you worked at NASA, depending on when, how, or >>>>>>> why it was mentioned could be considered name dropping.
    regarding what the others above have said, I don't recall making >>>>>>> any comments. anyhow, the bottom line for me is that I'm not
    interested in trying to justify everything I do or fail to do,
    since I don't claim to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so
    what's the point of making issues of the trivialities that are
    carried on about here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind.

    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, you
    will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a system >>>>>>> for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that it's
    bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but then
    most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised that yet? >>>>>
    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than
    everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some
    friends of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at
    it, got to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!


    Yet another post with zero content, a complete waste of bandwidth.

    yes, your reply was

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    Linux Mint 22.3


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:02:30


    On 16/7/2026 2:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be >>>>>>>> running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have lost
    all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your mate's contentions. Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic to weld an exhaust, I've even done it myself.

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made was
    that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why. This is
    because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips - which
    lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These acids corrode
    the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any signs appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and specifically on the
    *underside*, that tells you all you need to know - it's going to be
    rotten all the way through - don't bother welding it. The putty patch
    Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and best *short term* fix
    at that time. If it were my car, I'd have stuck a new cat back exhaust
    system on it, preferably of stainless, because the car was low mileage
    and in good nick - and kept the car. Felix wanted shed of it and I get
    where Felix is coming from, I like new cars too. In fact the last used
    car we bought was a TW Magna. Been all new cars here since then.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:04:27
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:35 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:00 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 1:21 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 3:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its
    three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)


    Then, of course there is

    https://imgur.com/a/MJlzvHo

    Enjoy your crow.



    None of which are "boasts" dickhead.

    Klokko the clown sticks his oar in for no apparent reason.

    must be taking a leaf from your book. you do it often

    Ooh bitchy! The girls club is certainly the place for you.

    just stating fact

    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software that
    I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to think
    what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you can't recall.
    just one less thing for you to crow about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or maybe it was a lie you
    forgot about?

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:08:12
    jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jul-26 7:24 PM, Xeno wrote:

    On 15/7/2026 5:51 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're
    born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just another
    example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves. The son of some
    friends of ours gave no indication of being clever, but he worked at
    it, got to university, and became a geologist.

    Well, duh!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿAnd those two words say plenty about *you*, even though you don`t
    realise the fact!!.


    time to start snipping ppl! and I note the only person noddy has
    complained about for not snipping is me. no surprise there!


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:10:02
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills.
    While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated
    person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and
    education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125
    can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn,
    for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some
    level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to
    go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of
    125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:15:23
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is
    just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills.
    While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated
    person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and
    education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you
    want to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't have
    what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our
    physiology, which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try?

    no. I'm well aware of my limitations. but who knows, maybe I could have
    got a pilots licence if I really tried, but I would never have got a job
    as an airline pilot. I'm quite sure of that!

    I was unable to be a pilot because I was slightly short sighted. The airforce in the late 50s still had a lot of WWII pilots and were
    over-run with teenaged boys applying to be pilots so were very choosy.
    There was no possible way of doing it privately since neither I or my
    family had the money for that.

    I did get a glider pilot's licence through the Air Cadets, and have
    flown a number of planes (with a qualified pilot). Never got a power
    plane licence, at first couldn't afford it, then didn't have the time,
    now being diabetic, CASA won't give me a licence anyway.


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:21:28
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.

    nice try. as if you didn't know noddy has claimed to be a qualified
    motor mechanic, as well as an automotive machinist btw. you've
    complained often enough about mechanics here asking him to post his certificates. now are you going to answer the question, or run away apu?

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:25:11
    On 16-Jul-26 12:15 PM, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system can't
    be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad his
    exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The windscreen boi is simply lying thru his teeth again?.. <SHRUG>

    And crickets from felix!. (Of course.)





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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:25:29
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system
    can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad
    his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)



    you've always been the bad guy!

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:30:06
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just
    another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more
    educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack
    practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not
    the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    so all Army privates can become Generals. all they have to do is work at
    it. the more you post, the more I realize you're nowhere near as smart
    as you think you are.

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:37:08
    On 16-Jul-26 2:05 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 12:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system
    can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad
    his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair
    themselves.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow, welding
    fixed it, no more leaks". They would be left with egg all over their
    faces. So, they *had* to talk him out of It.???

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)
    Darren, you are the bullshit artist here, confirmed.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    YAWwwwwwnnnnn....ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz..



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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:42:28
    On 16-Jul-26 3:25 PM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system
    can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad
    his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair
    themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)



    you've always been the bad guy!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So, A quick goal post shift....You *didn`t* ask, and wally is lying *again??. Whodathunkit...



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:43:30


    On 16/7/2026 3:30 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of,
    because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what you're >>>>>>> born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is just
    another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just more >>>>> educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the power
    to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, reason,
    and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, means having
    systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. While it's true
    they often overlap and support one another, a brilliant person may
    lack formal schooling, and a highly educated person may lack
    practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and education are not
    the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    so all Army privates can become Generals. all they have to do is work at
    it. the more you post, the more I realize you're nowhere near as smart
    as you think you are.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_and_education

    The military provides a natural example of how those with lower
    intelligence learn less effectively and benefit less from education. The effect has been demonstrated as far back as World War II in which
    military fighter pilots were divided into groups based on a selection
    battery which included ability and motivation measures. Those who were
    in the top group completed training the first time 95% of the time,
    whereas those in the bottom group only completed training 20% the first time.[7][better source needed] Examples of low level recruits have even
    led to disagreement over whether these men should be enlisted at all, as
    they are costly to train, perform at a lower level than average when
    trained, and simply cannot learn certain specialties.[8][better source
    needed] Even those in favor of hiring those who are less intelligent to
    the military acknowledge the limitations of these particular recruits,
    and instead try to get around the issue by adapting the training to
    cater for the mental ability of the less intelligent recruits.[9] These findings demonstrate how intelligence is necessary for learning and any
    form of training, and that those who are more intelligent learn more
    rapidly and effectively than those who are less intelligent
    [speculation?]. This could explain the high correlations between
    intelligence and educational attainment.


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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:44:17
    On 16/7/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't). >>>>>
    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my
    Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in
    public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do
    you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this
    reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts
    noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in the thread if
    you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....





    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?
    Maybe a "qualified welder" but its very likely that people who work in
    exhaust shops are neither.


    --
    Daryl

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:45:57
    On 16/7/2026 12:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no
    obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a
    qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it didn't). >>>>>
    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy claims
    to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix my
    Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work (in
    public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so do
    you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of this
    reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that contradicts
    noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in the thread if
    you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a welder.


    Exactly, welding exhausts isn't generally what mechanics do, if it was a dealership they would replace, not repair.


    --
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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:58:38
    On 16-Jul-26 1:07 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your pathetic
    and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have lost all
    integrity by continuing on with it.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *INTEGRITY*!!, you use the word in every second post, interesting.
    According to you, PPL are *Losing their integrity* hand over fist!.
    It`s *more likely* that at some time *YOUR* integrity has been
    questioned (In a *big* way.) and this is some sort of defense
    mechanism....A really big **NO YOU**!. Hows *that* grab ya wally??.??



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:00:43


    On 16/7/2026 3:44 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....





    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?
    Maybe a "qualified welder" but its very likely that people who work in exhaust shops are neither.
    The difference, dear chap, it that they aren't claiming to be
    *qualified* mechanics nor are they claiming to be *qualified* auto
    machinists. That is what is at issue here - the *pretender* who wants
    everyone to believe he is qualified in multiple trades. His reality is
    rather different.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:05:44


    On 16/7/2026 3:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 12:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.


    Exactly, welding exhausts isn't generally what mechanics do, if it was a dealership they would replace, not repair.

    Again, you totally miss the point. The point was made that the exhaust,
    if rusted out, isn't worth welding up. Apart from anything else, the
    area to be welded would be very thin through corrosion effects.

    Oh, and welding exhausts is what mechanics do. It may not be all the
    time, it may not even be very often, but it is something mechanics do -
    even if they only fire up the oxy to heat a pipe to loosen the rust or
    to cut off the old pipe. That is why, even now, apprentice mechanics are
    still taught welding. It's why you had to pass welding at tech.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:14:23
    On 16-Jul-26 3:44 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....





    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?
    Maybe a "qualified welder" but its very likely that people who work in exhaust shops are neither.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yeah, I got a *Cat back* zorst fitted to my Jeep a couple of years
    back at one of the local shops. Now leaking at both ends of the muffler
    around the chook shit welds..You`d think welding would be what they`re
    *good at!!. HA.




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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:35:28
    On 16/07/2026 3:10 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what >>>>>>>>>> you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. >>>>>> While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated >>>>>> person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and >>>>>> education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125
    can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn,
    for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some
    level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to
    go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of
    125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

    No evidence then

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:37:04
    On 16/07/2026 2:10 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 1:28 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:59 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:40 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Munchausen because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about himself have been to boast about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some
    credibility for myself as a result of being under attack >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the usual culprits. saying you worked at NASA, >>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on when, how, or why it was mentioned could be >>>>>>>>>>>>> considered name dropping. regarding what the others above >>>>>>>>>>>>> have said, I don't recall making any comments. anyhow, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom line for me is that I'm not interested in trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>> justify everything I do or fail to do, since I don't claim >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so what's the point of >>>>>>>>>>>>> making issues of the trivialities that are carried on about >>>>>>>>>>>>> here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that >>>>>>>>>>>> it's bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what >>>>>>>>>> you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. >>>>>> While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated >>>>>> person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and >>>>>> education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125
    can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn,
    for example.

    That's a cop out. Most people never realise their full potential, they >>>
    Define their potential. I know many intelligent people who are quite
    happy to live out their entire lives in *small town* Australia. What
    is their full potential?

    Who knows what their potential is, the only way to know what it is is to

    That was my point.

    achieve it. I would have thought that, as the group's self styled
    intellectual, you'd know that.

    I do know that. Your problem with that is a lot of people have no desire
    to realise their full potential - regardless of what that full potential might be.>

    This circular argument has returned to the beginning.

    get to some level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much
    trouble to go further.

    Or too costly which is very much the case these days.




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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:46:24
    On 16/07/2026 3:15 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is willpower. >>>>>>
    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills.
    While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated
    person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and
    education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you
    want to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't have
    what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our
    physiology, which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try?

    no. I'm well aware of my limitations. but who knows, maybe I could have
    got a pilots licence if I really tried, but I would never have got a job
    as an airline pilot. I'm quite sure of that!

    A lot of being a pilot is training your reflexes, Most of the time,
    flying an airliner is not that difficult these days. Before takeoff, the details of fuel, weight etc are fed into the computer along with the
    route. After takeoff, the autopilot does most of the work, if you are
    above 25000 feet you HAVE to be on autopilot, and, in most
    circumstances, the plane can land itself. What the pilot gets paid for
    is knowing what to do if things go wrong, and being able to react to the problem quickly and accurately.

    I was unable to be a pilot because I was slightly short sighted. The
    airforce in the late 50s still had a lot of WWII pilots and were over-
    run with teenaged boys applying to be pilots so were very choosy.
    There was no possible way of doing it privately since neither I or my
    family had the money for that.

    I did get a glider pilot's licence through the Air Cadets, and have
    flown a number of planes (with a qualified pilot). Never got a power
    plane licence, at first couldn't afford it, then didn't have the time,
    now being diabetic, CASA won't give me a licence anyway.




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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 15:46:17
    On 15/07/2026 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:49 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:19 pm, alvey wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, countinues >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, plagiarist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you calling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle Craven- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coward of anonymity have you?

    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whackos that the internet has enabled is cowardly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, you just don't seem to be able to comprehend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, unlike yourself, there are people who have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urge to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been to boast about the expensive cars that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>>> that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of my new >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links please? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its three
    predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?>
    Then, of course there is

    https://imgur.com/a/MJlzvHo

    Enjoy your crow.


    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Also, most of the car pix I've posted have been to silence the
    yapping of the Merrimu Madman who routinely yapped that I didn't own
    the cars I'd mentioned. That's aside from the one I posted of the
    broken down Merkin on the back of a truck. Reallly "boasting* that.

    Anyways, it doesn't matter now that Richo has blown it.

    I could have saved you the trouble of writing this, I knew exactly
    what you would say, you're that predictable.

    Xeno and the

    blah blah blah. Quit your whining already. You're quick enough to dish
    it out but like your mate when you get a bit of justified negative
    feedback you go to pieces because your fragile overinflated ego can't
    handle a dose of reality being thrown back in your face.
    Klokko the clown rushes in with his usual dose of negativity as usual.

    Just the facts old man.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 17:49:57
    On 16-Jul-26 5:46 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:49 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:19 pm, alvey wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, plagiarist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you calling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you?

    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whackos that the internet has enabled is cowardly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, you just don't seem to be able to comprehend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, unlike yourself, there are people who have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urge to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been to boast about the expensive cars that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the Mercedes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of my new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its three >>>>>>> predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?>
    Then, of course there is

    https://imgur.com/a/MJlzvHo

    Enjoy your crow.


    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Also, most of the car pix I've posted have been to silence the
    yapping of the Merrimu Madman who routinely yapped that I didn't
    own the cars I'd mentioned. That's aside from the one I posted of
    the broken down Merkin on the back of a truck. Reallly "boasting*
    that.

    Anyways, it doesn't matter now that Richo has blown it.

    I could have saved you the trouble of writing this, I knew exactly
    what you would say, you're that predictable.

    Xeno and the

    blah blah blah. Quit your whining already. You're quick enough to
    dish it out but like your mate when you get a bit of justified
    negative feedback you go to pieces because your fragile overinflated
    ego can't handle a dose of reality being thrown back in your face.
    Klokko the clown rushes in with his usual dose of negativity as usual.

    Just the facts old man.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *YOU* and *FACTS* are a solar system apart. ???



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    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:09:43
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim
    you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 16:16:07
    On 16/07/2026 1:44 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to fix
    my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for work
    (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I claim. so
    do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his way out of
    this reality? or are you still too gutless to say anything that
    contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read previous comments in
    the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....





    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?

    Go back to sleep Daryl... jeezus wept you are dumb.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:03:55


    On 16/7/2026 6:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim
    you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    I'd go so far as to *guarantee* they haven't.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 17:04:33
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a clutch
    in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among many
    other things.

    That you consider other people sharing such things as 'boasting'
    suggests you're a fragile person who is so insecure about his own
    achievements that he has to deride people sharing ordinary things to
    feel better about himself.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:20:37
    Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 4:55 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:29 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Munchausen because he pointlessly and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused him

    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stating facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castle Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target of the whackos that the internet has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled is cowardly. Also, you just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be able to comprehend that, unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself, there are people who have no urge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about himself have been to boast about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive cars that he claims to own. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about their cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.

    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the Mercedes that I traded it in for", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here's a picture of my new Mercedes down by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey"
    <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote

    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where is the boasting you bleat about?

    in earlier posts of his..

    "I worked at NASA dontcha know"

    So I worked for NASA for 6 years in the late 60s and early >>>>>>>>>>>>> 70s. But thats a boast.
    You claim (without evidence) that you ran a successful >>>>>>>>>>>>> business for 30 years. But, for some reason, that's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>> boast.
    Xeno claims (without evidence to have worked on mines in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Indonesia and not only taught courses for mechanics but >>>>>>>>>>>>> was largely responsible for setting the curriculum. But, >>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Alvery claims to have owned 4 expensive cars in a row. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, for some reason, that's not a boast.
    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    context is everything. I can't remember when I mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>> that, but I'm sure it was just to establish some
    credibility for myself as a result of being under attack >>>>>>>>>>>> from the usual culprits. saying you worked at NASA,
    depending on when, how, or why it was mentioned could be >>>>>>>>>>>> considered name dropping. regarding what the others above >>>>>>>>>>>> have said, I don't recall making any comments. anyhow, the >>>>>>>>>>>> bottom line for me is that I'm not interested in trying to >>>>>>>>>>>> justify everything I do or fail to do, since I don't claim >>>>>>>>>>>> to be perfect, and no one is anyway, so what's the point of >>>>>>>>>>>> making issues of the trivialities that are carried on about >>>>>>>>>>>> here?


    If you don't see the problem there you are willfully blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "I redesigned some aviation software"

    I call bullshit on that. If you want any creditability, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you will need a cite.

    I definitely recall you saying you had some input with a >>>>>>>>>>>> system for aircraft flight control

    I in the motto of the girl's club prove it or admit that >>>>>>>>>>> it's bullshit.

    "I'm smarter than everyone here"

    I call bullshit on that, but I am smarter than you, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> then most people here are too.

    LOL! you just said it!
    Most people here is smarter than you, haven't you realised >>>>>>>>>>> that yet?

    oh, I misread. I thought you were claiming to be smarter than >>>>>>>>>> everyone here, after denying that you claim that.


    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what
    you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being
    clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a
    geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just
    more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills.
    While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated
    person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and
    education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what we're
    born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of 125
    can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and learn,
    for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some
    level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to
    go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of
    125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    IQ does improve with education and with age - up to a point. Then it declines with age. More to do with *how* IQ is measured. Won't make a
    genius out of a moron though.



    education, puzzle solving (mental exercise), knowledge, practice tests,
    can all boost an IQ score a bit. but our inherent intellectual ability
    doesn't change, except by decline with age, as you mention. btw, I used
    to administer IQ tests at one time.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:24:27
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be >>>>>>>> running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your
    mate's contentions.

    there were none

    Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic to weld an exhaust,
    I've even done it myself.

    still dodging I see..

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:30:33
    jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 2:05 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 12:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm
    his way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his
    mental mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust
    system can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue
    how bad his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single
    weld repair themselves.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow,
    welding fixed it, no more leaks".

    it couldn't have been fixed by welding as there were multiple holes all
    along the exhaust system, not just a single hole in the muffler, as was presumed

    They would be left with egg all over their faces. So, they *had* to
    talk him out of It.???

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the
    bad guy here :)
    Darren, you are the bullshit artist here, confirmed.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    YAWwwwwwnnnnn....ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz..



    go to bed then..

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:34:26
    Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be
    running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....


    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?
    Maybe a "qualified welder" but its very likely that people who work in exhaust shops are neither.



    no one was suggesting that, you silly goose. if you bothered to read everyone's posts, instead of just your mates, you would get the proper
    story, and not just the filtered, biased, corrupt, dishonest version you always get.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:40:30


    On 16/7/2026 7:30 pm, Axel wrote:
    jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 2:05 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 12:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to >>>>>> fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for >>>>>> work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm
    his way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his
    mental mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust
    system can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue
    how bad his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single
    weld repair themselves.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow,
    welding fixed it, no more leaks".

    Looks like a bit of creative writing by the bullshit FLCJC crew.>
    it couldn't have been fixed by welding as there were multiple holes all along the exhaust system, not just a single hole in the muffler, as was presumed

    Indeed, given the circumstances, that's how they all end up and, as I
    quite clearly stated, they aren't worth welding up. Apart from the fact
    that the pipe will crack elsewhere, it'd be too difficult to weld that
    thin shit. New exhaust from the cat back is the cure.>
    They would be left with egg all over their faces. So, they *had* to
    talk him out of It.???

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the
    bad guy here :)
    Darren, you are the bullshit artist here, confirmed.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    YAWwwwwwnnnnn....ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz..



    go to bed then..


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:42:39
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:10 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than
    others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the >>>>>>>> power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and
    skills. While it's true they often overlap and support one
    another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a
    highly educated person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, >>>>>>> intelligence and education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what
    we're born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of >>>>>> 125 can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and
    learn, for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some
    level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to
    go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of
    125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong.

    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

    No evidence then

    if you're really stupid enough to believe it's possible to 'make a silk
    purse out of a sows ear', intellectually speaking, then I pity you. but
    lets push the example then, shall we. so you're happy to suggest that
    someone with an IQ of 90 could become smart enough to be a rocket
    scientist. no sensible person would think that. you must be really stupid.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:45:55
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 3:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 11:49 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 8:19 pm, alvey wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 14/7/2026 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle
    Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating facts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you calling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the master plagiarist xeno.

    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you?

    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no urge to pump themselves up.

    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about himself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been to boast about the expensive cars that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then.

    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its three >>>>>>> predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)

    Where is the boasting you bleat about?>
    Then, of course there is

    https://imgur.com/a/MJlzvHo

    Enjoy your crow.


    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Also, most of the car pix I've posted have been to silence the
    yapping of the Merrimu Madman who routinely yapped that I didn't
    own the cars I'd mentioned. That's aside from the one I posted of
    the broken down Merkin on the back of a truck. Reallly "boasting*
    that.

    Anyways, it doesn't matter now that Richo has blown it.

    I could have saved you the trouble of writing this, I knew exactly
    what you would say, you're that predictable.

    Xeno and the

    blah blah blah. Quit your whining already. You're quick enough to
    dish it out but like your mate when you get a bit of justified
    negative feedback you go to pieces because your fragile overinflated
    ego can't handle a dose of reality being thrown back in your face.
    Klokko the clown rushes in with his usual dose of negativity as usual.

    Just the facts old man.


    team neanderthal don't like dem der facts! they recoil in horror..

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:50:16
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    That you consider other people sharing such things as 'boasting'
    suggests you're a fragile person who is so insecure about his own achievements that he has to deride people sharing ordinary things to
    feel better about himself.




    and if what you and alvey have posted is boasting, then so is noddy
    talking about his Ranger and people mover, and Daryl about his cars, and
    keefy about his Rave4

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 19:52:08
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among many other things.

    That you consider other people sharing such things as 'boasting'
    suggests you're a fragile person who is so insecure about his own achievements that he has to deride people sharing ordinary things to
    feel better about himself.

    Yep, he's similar to Gibbens in that they both maintain an intense
    resentment that, in their minds, they weren't properly recognised or recompensed for their abilities. The giveaway that they're both
    fantasists is that if they'd actually lived the lives they've claimed
    then they wouldn't be so bitter and twisted today.



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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:09:57
    Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:


    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your
    mate's contentions.

    Q. Why isn't Richardson an Enabler?
    A. Because he says so.

    there were none

    Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic to weld an exhaust,
    I've even done it myself.

    still dodging I see..

    He like to think of himself as a cunning Scarlet Pimpernel type. There's
    a big difference though... no-one is seeking him..

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:47:40
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:48:21
    On 16/07/2026 7:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    That you consider other people sharing such things as 'boasting'
    suggests you're a fragile person who is so insecure about his own
    achievements that he has to deride people sharing ordinary things to
    feel better about himself.




    and if what you and alvey have posted is boasting, then so is noddy
    talking about his Ranger and people mover, and Daryl about his cars, and keefy about his Rave4

    And you about your little Chinese shitbox.





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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:49:47
    On 16/07/2026 7:45 pm, Axel wrote:

    team neanderthal don't like dem der facts! they recoil in horror..

    From the moron who thinks a "fact" is anything the mental case tells
    him it is :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:51:43
    On 16/07/2026 7:42 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

    No evidence then

    if you're really stupid enough to believe it's possible to 'make a silk purse out of a sows ear', intellectually speaking, then I pity you. but
    lets push the example then, shall we. so you're happy to suggest that someone with an IQ of 90 could become smart enough to be a rocket
    scientist. no sensible person would think that. you must be really stupid.

    He asked for evidence Felix. Not your opinion. You've made lots of
    noise, but provided nothing other than your ignorant opinion.

    I think that tells everyone all they need to know, really :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:53:16
    On 16/07/2026 7:20 pm, Axel wrote:

    education, puzzle solving (mental exercise), knowledge, practice tests,
    can all boost an IQ score a bit. but our inherent intellectual ability doesn't change, except by decline with age, as you mention. btw, I used
    to administer IQ tests at one time.

    Well, isn't that funny. A moron testing people's intelligence :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:54:57
    On 16/07/2026 4:37 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 2:10 pm, Xeno wrote:

    I do know that. Your problem with that is a lot of people have no
    desire to realise their full potential - regardless of what that full
    potential might be.>

    This circular argument has returned to the beginning.

    And before long it'll be this fucktard throwing your own comments back
    at you while making out that's what he was saying all along.


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 20:57:39
    On 16/07/2026 3:30 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you want
    to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    so all Army privates can become Generals. all they have to do is work at
    it. the more you post, the more I realize you're nowhere near as smart
    as you think you are.

    And the more you post, the more obvious it becomes to everyone that you
    are a one dimensional idiot.

    By your logic *no one* ever rises above their station and everyone's lot
    in life is determined at birth, which is about the stupidest belief
    imaginable since some idiot claimed that an old sky fairy created the
    Earth in 7 days....



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:00:51
    On 16/07/2026 3:08 pm, Axel wrote:


    time to start snipping ppl! and I note the only person noddy has
    complained about for not snipping is me. no surprise there!

    Not to someone as stupid as you, but it was obvious to anyone else that posting a three word reply in the *middle* of a 400 line repost wasn't terribly smart.

    It's almost as if you're on a quest to prove that dumb cunts remain so
    for their entire lives :)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:01:52
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to think
    what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you can't recall.
    just one less thing for you to crow about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or maybe it was a lie you
    forgot about?

    Maybe he never said it *at all* and you're just imagining he did?

    You have form....



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:04:00
    On 16/07/2026 1:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:08 am, Noddy wrote:

    There is no spin Felix. Had you turned up I wouldn't have charged you.
    Believe that or not as you see fit.




    Makes no difference to the fact that you solicited for work.

    Lol :)

    And then what?



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:04:57
    On 16/07/2026 3:37 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 2:05 PM, Xeno wrote:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system
    can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad
    his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair
    themselves.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow, welding fixed it, no more leaks". They would be left with egg all over their
    faces. So, they *had* to talk him out of It.???

    That would've hurt :)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:07:27
    On 16/07/2026 7:30 pm, Axel wrote:
    jonz wrote:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow,
    welding fixed it, no more leaks".

    it couldn't have been fixed by welding as there were multiple holes all along the exhaust system, not just a single hole in the muffler, as was presumed

    Which is not something you knew until after you took your car along to
    an exhaust fitter, and had you come here and it was discovered that it
    was too far gone to be repaired (which is unlikely) I would have just
    dabbed silicone on it the same as the exhaust fitter did.

    The point is that you never came, so what you're complaining about *now* remains remarkably unclear.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:10:14
    On 16/07/2026 6:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim
    you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    Is that like how you bet that Telstra never charged anyone for unlisted numbers?





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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:11:11
    On 16/07/2026 3:25 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system
    can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad
    his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair
    themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)



    you've always been the bad guy!

    Says the pedophile screamer :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:12:39
    On 16/07/2026 6:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:44 pm, Daryl wrote:

    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?

    Go back to sleep Daryl... jeezus wept you are dumb.

    More irony from the utter fucktard who was confused by plastic and glass :)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:16:01
    On 16/07/2026 7:34 pm, Axel wrote:
    Daryl wrote:

    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to weld
    an exhaust?
    Maybe a "qualified welder" but its very likely that people who work in
    exhaust shops are neither.



    no one was suggesting that, you silly goose. if you bothered to read everyone's posts, instead of just your mates, you would get the proper story, and not just the filtered, biased, corrupt, dishonest version you always get.

    ... and what actually *is* the "proper story" here, Felix? I offered to
    do you a favour and fix your car if it could be fixed, and at a price
    that I wouldn't have charged you anyway.

    What crime do you actually believe was being committed there? Do you
    *know* of one, or are you just blindly tagging along with the shit your
    mates are throwing around while having no fucking idea what they're
    talking about?




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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:19:13
    On 16/07/2026 1:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times.

    So have you. Yet comments you've made here in this very group give more
    than enough reason to doubt that fact.

    Give up your pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have lost all
    integrity by continuing on with it.

    You are an absolute fucking lunatic who is achieving *nothing* here with
    this nonsense other than making yourself look even *more* bat shit crazy
    than what you are.

    This is a common failing with you. Every time you get shown to be wrong,
    you come back even more ridiculously fucked up than the last time. Keep
    going at this rate and with a couple of months your posts will be
    completely indecipherable.


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:20:44
    On 16/07/2026 7:24 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:


    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your
    mate's contentions.

    there were none

    Lol :)

    Remind us all again, Felix. What were they? :)

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:21:00
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    You keep forgetting that you forfeited the right to ask question years
    ago Gibbens.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:22:33
    On 16/07/2026 3:21 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.

    nice try. as if you didn't know noddy has claimed to be a qualified
    motor mechanic, as well as an automotive machinist btw.

    Yeah, and as I've asked you a couple of times now, and which you
    completely ignore, so what?

    you've complained often enough about mechanics here asking him to post his certificates. now are you going to answer the question, or run away apu?

    *What* question. What is the question you're asking? You're making
    absolutely zero sense :)





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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:23:56
    On 16/07/2026 3:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 12:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.


    Exactly, welding exhausts isn't generally what mechanics do, if it was a dealership they would replace, not repair.

    It wouldn't matter if I was a mechanic or not. There is no formal
    requirement to be acting in a professional capacity *just* to do someone
    a favour.

    These people are absolutely mental :)


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:42:40
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:35 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:00 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 1:21 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 3:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 10:12 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/07/2026 8:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 11/07/2026 9:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 10/07/2026 9:36 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 9/07/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 7/07/2026 8:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/06/2026 12:21 pm

    Once more! I pursue the Merrimu Munchausen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he pointlessly and
    without reason abused me (and of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countinues to do so from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven-Coward)
    And, of course, you haven't pointlessly abused him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Calling Gibbens a liar, hypocrite, coward, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagiarist etc isn't "abuse" Richo, it's stating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.

    Incorrect, the word facts should be "Facts" Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Factman". As for plagiarism, I don't see you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the master plagiarist xeno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    (or anybody else for that matter) from Castle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Craven- Coward of anonymity have you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Oh do explain how not wanting to be the target of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the whackos that the internet has enabled is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardly. Also, you just don't seem to be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend that, unlike yourself, there are people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have no urge to pump themselves up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ROTFL, this from the guy who only posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself have been to boast about the expensive cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he claims to own.

    wow! who woulda thought anyone would post about their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars here!

    Everybody has, but only he has beat his chest about it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    News to me. Lets see some examples Richo.

    from you, "I've got an Audi, although I used to have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW", "Here's a picture of my Audi along with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes that I traded it in for", "Here's a picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new Mercedes down by the beach" etc.

    I don't recall saying all those. Could I have the links >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please?

    You either have a poor or convenient memory.

    So you're admitting that you invented those quotes then. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Looks like that's a "Yes" from Richo.


    Quite one for assumptions aren't you alvo.

    Looks even more like a "Yes" now.

    Computer says no

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:09:09 "alvey" <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>
    are you happy with the A35?

    Meh. It's ok. Not as much fun or as loveable as any of its
    three predecessors (Audi S3, Audi S3 & BMW 130)


    Then, of course there is

    https://imgur.com/a/MJlzvHo

    Enjoy your crow.



    None of which are "boasts" dickhead.

    Klokko the clown sticks his oar in for no apparent reason.

    must be taking a leaf from your book. you do it often

    Ooh bitchy! The girls club is certainly the place for you.

    just stating fact

    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software that
    I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to think
    what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you can't recall.
    just one less thing for you to crow about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or maybe it was a lie you
    forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise. I have never written any aviation software and have never claimed to have done so.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:45:05


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if you
    know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty quick.

    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!



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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:45:55
    On 16/07/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 2:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be >>>>>>>>> running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it >>>>>>>>> didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to >>>>>> *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off >>>>>> over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his >>>>> way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your
    mate's contentions. Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic to
    weld an exhaust, I've even done it myself.

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made was that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why. This is because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips - which
    lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These acids corrode
    the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any signs appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and specifically on the *underside*, that tells you all you need to know - it's going to be
    rotten all the way through - don't bother welding it. The putty patch
    Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and best *short term* fix
    at that time. If it were my car, I'd have stuck a new cat back exhaust system on it, preferably of stainless, because the car was low mileage
    and in good nick - and kept the car. Felix wanted shed of it and I get
    where Felix is coming from, I like new cars too. In fact the last used
    car we bought was a TW Magna. Been all new cars here since then.

    I don't know how many times you have felt the need to repeat all this.
    You seem to have an uncanny ability (well self perceived ability) to
    diagnose things from a distance.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 21:46:59


    On 16/7/2026 8:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:45 pm, Axel wrote:

    team neanderthal don't like dem der facts! they recoil in horror..

    From the moron who thinks a "fact" is anything the mental case tells
    him it is :)

    I really do live in your head rent free, eh Darren?

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:00:29


    On 16/7/2026 8:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:20 pm, Axel wrote:

    education, puzzle solving (mental exercise), knowledge, practice
    tests, can all boost an IQ score a bit. but our inherent intellectual
    ability doesn't change, except by decline with age, as you mention.
    btw, I used to administer IQ tests at one time.

    Well, isn't that funny. A moron testing people's intelligence :)
    Sorry Darren, you've got it all wrong, you don't have enough
    intelligence to test anyone else's intelligence.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:07:26


    On 16/7/2026 9:07 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:30 pm, Axel wrote:
    jonz wrote:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow,
    welding fixed it, no more leaks".

    it couldn't have been fixed by welding as there were multiple holes
    all along the exhaust system, not just a single hole in the muffler,
    as was presumed

    Which is not something you knew until after you took your car along to

    I knew what it would be like Darren. Experience taught me that!

    an exhaust fitter, and had you come here and it was discovered that it
    was too far gone to be repaired (which is unlikely) I would have just
    dabbed silicone on it the same as the exhaust fitter did.

    Hindsight won't work for you Darren.>
    The point is that you never came, so what you're complaining about *now* remains remarkably unclear.

    Yes, he was quite wise, wasn't he?

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:08:56


    On 16/7/2026 9:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:34 pm, Axel wrote:
    Daryl wrote:

    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to
    weld an exhaust?
    Maybe a "qualified welder" but its very likely that people who work
    in exhaust shops are neither.



    no one was suggesting that, you silly goose. if you bothered to read
    everyone's posts, instead of just your mates, you would get the proper
    story, and not just the filtered, biased, corrupt, dishonest version
    you always get.

    ... and what actually *is* the "proper story" here, Felix? I offered to
    do you a favour and fix your car if it could be fixed, and at a price
    that I wouldn't have charged you anyway.

    You quoted a price! $100.>
    What crime do you actually believe was being committed there? Do you
    *know* of one, or are you just blindly tagging along with the shit your mates are throwing around while having no fucking idea what they're
    talking about?

    The crime? You're a fraud!


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:13:52


    On 16/7/2026 9:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:21 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.

    nice try. as if you didn't know noddy has claimed to be a qualified
    motor mechanic, as well as an automotive machinist btw.

    Yeah, and as I've asked you a couple of times now, and which you
    completely ignore, so what?

    It's a lie, that's what!>
    you've complained often enough about mechanics here asking him to post
    his certificates. now are you going to answer the question, or run
    away apu?

    *What* question. What is the question you're asking? You're making absolutely zero sense :)

    Why am I not surprised by this evasion tactic.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:15:55


    On 16/7/2026 9:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 12:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.


    Exactly, welding exhausts isn't generally what mechanics do, if it was
    a dealership they would replace, not repair.

    It wouldn't matter if I was a mechanic or not. There is no formal requirement to be acting in a professional capacity *just* to do someone
    a favour.

    There is when (a) you make the claim, and (b) you quote a price.

    That is fraud.>
    These people are absolutely mental :)



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:18:27


    On 16/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:



    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor >>>>> mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your
    mate's contentions. Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic to
    weld an exhaust, I've even done it myself.

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made
    was that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why. This
    is because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips -
    which lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These acids
    corrode the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any signs
    appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and
    specifically on the *underside*, that tells you all you need to know -
    it's going to be rotten all the way through - don't bother welding it.
    The putty patch Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and best
    *short term* fix at that time. If it were my car, I'd have stuck a new
    cat back exhaust system on it, preferably of stainless, because the
    car was low mileage and in good nick - and kept the car. Felix wanted
    shed of it and I get where Felix is coming from, I like new cars too.
    In fact the last used car we bought was a TW Magna. Been all new cars
    here since then.

    I don't know how many times you have felt the need to repeat all this.
    You seem to have an uncanny ability (well self perceived ability) to diagnose things from a distance.

    Experience Keith, experience. Seen it and dealt with it many many times.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 23:31:03
    On 16/07/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made
    was that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why. This
    is because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips -
    which lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These acids
    corrode the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any signs
    appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and
    specifically on the *underside*, that tells you all you need to know -
    it's going to be rotten all the way through - don't bother welding it.
    The putty patch Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and best
    *short term* fix at that time. If it were my car, I'd have stuck a new
    cat back exhaust system on it, preferably of stainless, because the
    car was low mileage and in good nick - and kept the car. Felix wanted
    shed of it and I get where Felix is coming from, I like new cars too.
    In fact the last used car we bought was a TW Magna. Been all new cars
    here since then.

    I don't know how many times you have felt the need to repeat all this.
    You seem to have an uncanny ability (well self perceived ability) to diagnose things from a distance.

    Spectacular, isn't it? And the most astonishing part is that by his own admission he has done "many" exhaust repairs with none of them involving welding giving him zero exhaust welding experience.

    How *anyone* can be an expert on a subject they have zero practical
    experience with is a total mystery, but it *does* go some way to
    explaining how they can come up with nonsensical theories like
    "transferred experience" :)



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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:46:48
    On 15/07/2026 3:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 12:19 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Circle the wagon folks, one of us is under attack.

    Lol :)


    You're how old again?



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    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 16, 2026 22:48:40
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:03 am, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:51 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:42 pm, Clocky wrote:

    Bzzzt. Wrong. I offered to do Felix a favour. He was under no >>>>>>>>> obligation to accept. As usual, you are completely full of shit. >>>>>>>>>


    Bzzzzzt. Right. Charging him $100 was not a favour.

    *You* publicly solicited for work, you publicly claimed to be a >>>>>>>> qualified motor mechanic more than once and you claimed to be >>>>>>>> running a business when it suited you (and "retired" when it
    didn't).

    Wrong again, junior.


    Nope and you don't get to invent the rules.

    ROTFL :)

    Claims the fucktard who is doing *precisely* that. Post a link to
    *anything* that shows that the utter crap that you're jerking off
    over here is relevant to anything at all....

    I'll wait.



    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his
    way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have lost
    all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 08:50:59
    On 17/07/2026 12:46 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 3:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 12:19 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Circle the wagon folks, one of us is under attack.

    Lol :)


    You're how old again?

    Exactly 10 years older than you, junior :)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 08:51:51
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 10:53:47
    On 16-Jul-26 7:52 PM, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Built a house with the proceeds doncha know??. ???

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.
    ~~~~~~~~~
    Of course, run of the mill, everyday stuff, like 26m clutch
    replacement... As if!.???

    That you consider other people sharing such things as 'boasting'
    suggests you're a fragile person who is so insecure about his own
    achievements that he has to deride people sharing ordinary things to
    feel better about himself.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And there *you* are wally, ms 26m clutch!
    The same person who gets off on hanging shit on anyone you see as *challenging*, in any way, shape, or form.


    Yep, he's similar to Gibbens in that they both maintain an intense resentment that, in their minds, they weren't properly recognised or recompensed for their abilities. The giveaway that they're both
    fantasists is that if they'd actually lived the lives they've claimed
    then they wouldn't be so bitter and twisted today.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    So, there *you* go.. Bitter and twisted?, absolutely. As *proved* by
    the oddball O/T shit and *putdowns* you poast in here, on a daily basis!.






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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 11:04:33
    On 16-Jul-26 9:45 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if you
    know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty quick.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Says he with the *bricked up* collectables....
    Uh-huh, sure..So, now there are two of you, a continent apart, doing the
    same job, in an *unbelievable* 26 minutes. On their *own* in the *exact
    same* time. ????????


    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Hard for *anyone* to believe!.





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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 11:12:35
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made
    was that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why.
    This is because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips
    - which lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These
    acids corrode the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any
    signs appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and
    specifically on the *underside*, that tells you all you need to know
    - it's going to be rotten all the way through - don't bother welding
    it. The putty patch Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and
    best *short term* fix at that time. If it were my car, I'd have
    stuck a new cat back exhaust system on it, preferably of stainless,
    because the car was low mileage and in good nick - and kept the car.
    Felix wanted shed of it and I get where Felix is coming from, I like
    new cars too. In fact the last used car we bought was a TW Magna.
    Been all new cars here since then.

    I don't know how many times you have felt the need to repeat all
    this. You seem to have an uncanny ability (well self perceived
    ability) to diagnose things from a distance.

    Spectacular, isn't it? And the most astonishing part is that by his
    own admission he has done "many" exhaust repairs with none of them
    involving welding giving him zero exhaust welding experience.

    How *anyone* can be an expert on a subject they have zero practical experience with is a total mystery, but it *does* go some way to
    explaining how they can come up with nonsensical theories like
    "transferred experience" :)


    one doesn't need to be a genius, or have welding experience, to
    understand that welding the thin metal of a worn out rusty muffler is
    not a good practical solution. I'd bet no exhaust businesses would do
    it. some backyard shonks maybe.


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 11:17:10
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.



    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it, lol! :)

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 11:54:16
    On 17/07/2026 11:12 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    How *anyone* can be an expert on a subject they have zero practical
    experience with is a total mystery, but it *does* go some way to
    explaining how they can come up with nonsensical theories like
    "transferred experience" :)


    one doesn't need to be a genius, or have welding experience, to
    understand that welding the thin metal of a worn out rusty muffler is
    not a good practical solution. I'd bet no exhaust businesses would do
    it. some backyard shonks maybe.

    Of course. Spoken by someone who has even *less* understanding than the "expert" with zero hands on experience.

    Fascinating.




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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 11:55:08
    On 17/07/2026 11:17 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.



    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it, lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in any conversational context.



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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 12:08:22
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 11:17 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have >>>>>> lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.



    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it,
    lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in any conversational context.


    liar

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 12:16:37
    On 16/07/2026 7:42 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:10 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than >>>>>>>>>>>> others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the >>>>>>>>> power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, >>>>>>>> reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, >>>>>>>> means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and
    skills. While it's true they often overlap and support one
    another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a
    highly educated person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, >>>>>>>> intelligence and education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what
    we're born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ of >>>>>>> 125 can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study and
    learn, for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some
    level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble to >>>>>> go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ of >>>>> 125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're wrong. >>>>>
    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

    No evidence then

    if you're really stupid enough to believe it's possible to 'make a silk purse out of a sows ear', intellectually speaking, then I pity you. but
    lets push the example then, shall we. so you're happy to suggest that someone with an IQ of 90 could become smart enough to be a rocket
    scientist. no sensible person would think that. you must be really stupid.

    You keep banging on about IQs, how do you determine them? The tests that
    they used to hand out are largely discredited, some people had a talent
    for them so got a high IQ, but it didn't mean that they were more
    intelligent.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 13:05:10
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 4:37 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 2:10 pm, Xeno wrote:

    I do know that. Your problem with that is a lot of people have no
    desire to realise their full potential - regardless of what that full
    potential might be.>

    This circular argument has returned to the beginning.

    And before long it'll be this fucktard throwing your own comments back
    at you...

    He's got a variation of that. He writes your comments and *then* throws
    them back at you.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 13:11:38
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:08 pm, Axel wrote:


    time to start snipping ppl! and I note the only person noddy has
    complained about for not snipping is me. no surprise there!

    Not to someone as stupid as you, but it was obvious to anyone else that posting a three word reply in the *middle* of a 400 line repost wasn't terribly smart.

    It's almost as if you're on a quest to prove that dumb cunts remain so
    for their entire lives :)

    Well you're certainly evidence against that. You started at dumb and
    have been getting stupider by the day.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 13:46:27


    On 17/7/2026 8:50 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:46 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 3:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 12:19 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Circle the wagon folks, one of us is under attack.

    Lol :)


    You're how old again?

    Exactly 10 years older than you, junior :)

    About time you started acting your age, fraud!



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 13:47:45


    On 17/7/2026 8:51 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.

    Supporting your lies. How's that for *precise* & *concise*?

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 13:48:38


    On 17/7/2026 11:12 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made
    was that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why.
    This is because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips
    - which lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These
    acids corrode the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any
    signs appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and
    specifically on the *underside*, that tells you all you need to know
    - it's going to be rotten all the way through - don't bother welding
    it. The putty patch Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and
    best *short term* fix at that time. If it were my car, I'd have
    stuck a new cat back exhaust system on it, preferably of stainless,
    because the car was low mileage and in good nick - and kept the car.
    Felix wanted shed of it and I get where Felix is coming from, I like
    new cars too. In fact the last used car we bought was a TW Magna.
    Been all new cars here since then.

    I don't know how many times you have felt the need to repeat all
    this. You seem to have an uncanny ability (well self perceived
    ability) to diagnose things from a distance.

    Spectacular, isn't it? And the most astonishing part is that by his
    own admission he has done "many" exhaust repairs with none of them
    involving welding giving him zero exhaust welding experience.

    How *anyone* can be an expert on a subject they have zero practical
    experience with is a total mystery, but it *does* go some way to
    explaining how they can come up with nonsensical theories like
    "transferred experience" :)


    one doesn't need to be a genius, or have welding experience, to
    understand that welding the thin metal of a worn out rusty muffler is
    not a good practical solution. I'd bet no exhaust businesses would do
    it. some backyard shonks maybe.
    Precise and concise!


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 14:05:54
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:42 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:10 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than >>>>>>>>>>>>> others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became >>>>>>>>>>>> a geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, >>>>>>>>>>> just more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have >>>>>>>>>> the power to be smart, and good at something, what you need >>>>>>>>>> is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, >>>>>>>>> reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, >>>>>>>>> means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and
    skills. While it's true they often overlap and support one
    another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a >>>>>>>>> highly educated person may lack practical judgment. Bottom
    line, intelligence and education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what
    we're born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ >>>>>>>> of 125 can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study >>>>>>>> and learn, for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some >>>>>>> level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble >>>>>>> to go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ
    of 125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're >>>>>> wrong.

    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

    No evidence then

    if you're really stupid enough to believe it's possible to 'make a
    silk purse out of a sows ear', intellectually speaking, then I pity
    you. but lets push the example then, shall we. so you're happy to
    suggest that someone with an IQ of 90 could become smart enough to be
    a rocket scientist. no sensible person would think that. you must be
    really stupid.

    You keep banging on about IQs, how do you determine them?

    by IQ tests, which determine where participants fall on the IQ scale.

    The tests that they used to hand out are largely discredited, some
    people had a talent for them so got a high IQ, but it didn't mean that
    they were more intelligent.

    yes they are not infallible, as I've previously said. IQ results can be
    skewed by education level, aptitude, practice in doing similar tests,
    and so on. but IQ is not the crux of the matter. this discussion is
    about your false contention that anyone can achieve what ever they want
    if they're just determined enough and work hard enough at it. as I've
    been trying to make you understand, we are ALL limited by our innate abilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or just a talent for something. no matter hard hard I try I will never be able to sing like
    John Farnham used to be able to.

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 15:36:20
    On 16/7/2026 4:46 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:15 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud of, >>>>>>>>>> because it's not something you've achieved, it's just what >>>>>>>>>> you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than others, is >>>>>>>>>> just another example of your inflated ego. HTH


    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the
    power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of
    evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG.

    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. >>>>>> While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated >>>>>> person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and >>>>>> education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you
    want to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't have
    what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our
    physiology, which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try?

    no. I'm well aware of my limitations. but who knows, maybe I could
    have got a pilots licence if I really tried, but I would never have
    got a job as an airline pilot. I'm quite sure of that!

    A lot of being a pilot is training your reflexes, Most of the time,
    flying an airliner is not that difficult these days. Before takeoff, the details of fuel, weight etc are fed into the computer along with the
    route. After takeoff, the autopilot does most of the work, if you are
    above 25000 feet you HAVE to be on autopilot, and, in most
    circumstances, the plane can land itself. What the pilot gets paid for
    is knowing what to do if things go wrong, and being able to react to the problem quickly and accurately.

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they have high
    IQ's, they just seem like normal people.



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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 15:38:35
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for some
    reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox already removed:-)

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 15:41:35
    On 17/7/2026 11:04 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:45 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if you
    know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty quick.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Says he with the *bricked up* collectables....
    Uh-huh, sure..So, now there are two of you, a continent apart, doing the same job, in an *unbelievable* 26 minutes. On their *own* in the *exact same* time. ????????


    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ÿ Hard for *anyone* to believe!.





    LOL, he forgot to mention that the gearbox was already out of the car:-)
    The 26 minutes was unbolting the old clutch and bolting a new one to the flywheel:-)

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 16:34:32


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in 25
    minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need to
    explain the advantages of that.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 16:35:13


    On 17/7/2026 3:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 11:04 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:45 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if you
    know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty quick.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Says he with the *bricked up* collectables....
    Uh-huh, sure..So, now there are two of you, a continent apart, doing
    the same job, in an *unbelievable* 26 minutes. On their *own* in the
    *exact same* time. ????????


    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ÿÿ Hard for *anyone* to believe!.





    LOL, he forgot to mention that the gearbox was already out of the car:-)
    The 26 minutes was unbolting the old clutch and bolting a new one to the flywheel:-)

    You wouldn't last long in a dealership laddie!


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 16:41:37
    Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 4:46 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:15 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than
    others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the >>>>>>>> power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and
    skills. While it's true they often overlap and support one
    another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a
    highly educated person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, >>>>>>> intelligence and education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you >>>>>> want to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't
    have what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our
    physiology, which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try?

    no. I'm well aware of my limitations. but who knows, maybe I could
    have got a pilots licence if I really tried, but I would never have
    got a job as an airline pilot. I'm quite sure of that!

    A lot of being a pilot is training your reflexes, Most of the time,
    flying an airliner is not that difficult these days. Before takeoff,
    the details of fuel, weight etc are fed into the computer along with
    the route. After takeoff, the autopilot does most of the work, if you
    are above 25000 feet you HAVE to be on autopilot, and, in most
    circumstances, the plane can land itself. What the pilot gets paid
    for is knowing what to do if things go wrong, and being able to react
    to the problem quickly and accurately.

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.




    yeah, ordinary people with the ability to become airline pilots

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 17:02:44
    On 17-Jul-26 3:41 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 11:04 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:45 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if you
    know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty quick.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Says he with the *bricked up* collectables....
    Uh-huh, sure..So, now there are two of you, a continent apart, doing
    the same job, in an *unbelievable* 26 minutes. On their *own* in the
    *exact same* time. ????????


    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ÿÿ Hard for *anyone* to believe!.





    LOL, he forgot to mention that the gearbox was already out of the car:-)
    The 26 minutes was unbolting the old clutch and bolting a new one to the flywheel:-)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yep, then *another* 3 hrs reinstalling the box!???



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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 17:20:55
    On 16-Jul-26 7:34 PM, Axel wrote:
    Since you didn`t/couldn`t answer This Q
    before, here it is again!!.

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 17:40:45
    On 16-Jul-26 10:07 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 9:07 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:30 pm, Axel wrote:
    jonz wrote:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, they`d *have to* ? Coz when felix came back saying, "Wow,
    welding fixed it, no more leaks".

    it couldn't have been fixed by welding as there were multiple holes
    all along the exhaust system, not just a single hole in the muffler,
    as was presumed

    Which is not something you knew until after you took your car along to

    I knew what it would be like Darren. Experience taught me that!

    an exhaust fitter, and had you come here and it was discovered that it
    was too far gone to be repaired (which is unlikely) I would have just
    dabbed silicone on it the same as the exhaust fitter did.

    Hindsight won't work for you Darren.>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    In this case it *did*....

    Whereas *YOU* blurting *"I knew what it would be like Darren.
    Experience taught me that!"

    Is a blatant LIE!!. AND you know why..


    The point is that you never came, so what you're complaining about
    *now* remains remarkably unclear.

    Yes, he was quite wise, wasn't he?



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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 17:41:08
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a
    clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need to
    explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 18:19:21


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in 25
    minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need to
    explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are drive
    on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something up top,
    up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with both hoists
    and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits. Used them a
    lot in the truck industry and in mining.

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    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 18:24:52
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software that
    I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you can't
    recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you think you
    never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or maybe it was a
    lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 18:27:58
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:25 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 11:54 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:51 AM, Axel wrote:

    hey keefy, here's your chance to prove you're not biased. noddy
    claims to be a qualified motor mechanic. fact. he offered here to
    fix my Magna muffler for $100. fact. that constitutes touting for
    work (in public) as a qualified motor mechanic, as clocky and I
    claim. so do you agree, and that noddy is just trying to squirm his >>>>> way out of this reality? or are you still too gutless to say
    anything that contradicts noddy, as you've always been. (read
    previous comments in the thread if you need to)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wally says that you asked to *See his quals.*? is that *FACT*?.....

    No, it's complete bullshit. He never did. Not once. It was his mental
    mates that talked him out of it in claiming that an exhaust system
    can't be weld repaired, despite neither of them having a clue how bad
    his exhaust system was, or ever having performed a single weld repair
    themselves.

    It was pathetic actually, but somehow now in retrospect *I'm* the bad
    guy here :)



    you've always been the bad guy!

    Says the pedophile screamer :)

    Says the idiot troll.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 18:30:31
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:44 pm, Daryl wrote:

    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to
    weld an exhaust?

    Go back to sleep Daryl... jeezus wept you are dumb.

    More irony from the utter fucktard who was confused by plastic and glass :)


    Stupid troll.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 18:41:08
    Noddy wrote:


    Spectacular, isn't it? And the most astonishing part is that by his own admission he has done "many" exhaust repairs with none of them involving welding giving him zero exhaust welding experience.

    How *anyone* can be an expert on a subject they have zero practical experience with is a total mystery...snip

    Timely Reminder: There is no proof that you have any "practical
    experience" in *anything* Gibbens. (Aside from lying, hypocrisy etc)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:04:55
    On 17/07/2026 3:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 11:04 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:45 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for
    some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among
    many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if you
    know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty quick.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Says he with the *bricked up* collectables....
    Uh-huh, sure..So, now there are two of you, a continent apart, doing
    the same job, in an *unbelievable* 26 minutes. On their *own* in the
    *exact same* time. ????????


    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ÿÿ Hard for *anyone* to believe!.





    LOL, he forgot to mention that the gearbox was already out of the car:-)
    The 26 minutes was unbolting the old clutch and bolting a new one to the flywheel:-)

    Lol :)





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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:07:36
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.

    As it's impossible "be precise" in matters of opinion, let's try
    simplicity instead.

    Richardson says that he's not enabling you because he doesn't make any
    posts which support you.

    Rational people say that's feebly simplistic as he attacks (also
    feebly), but only *one group*. If wants to be 'impartial' then he must
    treat both sides equally.

    It's not difficult.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:14:43


    On 17/7/2026 7:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 11:04 am, jonz wrote:
    On 16-Jul-26 9:45 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for >>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among >>>>>> many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)

    Well, I did it on a Holden 6 of HT, HG, HQ Vintage. Easy to do if
    you know the tricks, and in a dealership you learn the tricks pretty
    quick.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Says he with the *bricked up* collectables....
    Uh-huh, sure..So, now there are two of you, a continent apart, doing
    the same job, in an *unbelievable* 26 minutes. On their *own* in the
    *exact same* time. ????????


    For a faker, that might be hard to believe I guess!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ÿÿ Hard for *anyone* to believe!.





    LOL, he forgot to mention that the gearbox was already out of the car:-)
    The 26 minutes was unbolting the old clutch and bolting a new one to
    the flywheel:-)

    Lol :)
    Darren, you're a physical (and mental) cripple. You could never aspire
    to doing a clutch job on anything in 25 minutes. You would be lucky to complete a clutch job in 25 hours.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:18:29


    On 17/7/2026 6:41 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:


    Spectacular, isn't it? And the most astonishing part is that by his
    own admission he has done "many" exhaust repairs with none of them
    involving welding giving him zero exhaust welding experience.

    How *anyone* can be an expert on a subject they have zero practical
    experience with is a total mystery...snip

    Timely Reminder: There is no proof that you have any "practical
    experience" in *anything* Gibbens. (Aside from lying, hypocrisy etc)
    Observe how Darren avoids discussions on apprenticeships and training
    leaving his focus purely on experience. Sadly, experience without
    training likely means experience by error. Saw that remarkably clearly
    with Darren's work on Les' engine. Worse, he couldn't even step back
    through the engine's failure process in order to prevent a recurrence -
    and that is bad.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:21:18


    On 17/7/2026 7:07 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.

    As it's impossible "be precise" in matters of opinion, let's try
    simplicity instead.

    Richardson says that he's not enabling you because he doesn't make any
    posts which support you.

    Rational people say that's feebly simplistic as he attacks (also
    feebly), but only *one group*. If wants to be 'impartial' then he must
    treat both sides equally.

    It's not difficult.

    Too difficult for Darren, but then, he isn't all that bright. Certainly
    not bright enough to be a motor mechanic. Oh, that's right, he didn't
    even get to first base in the apprenticeship stakes, didn't make first
    base, that entry level standard - the one he had no clue about.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:32:59
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 11:17 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:48 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have >>>>>> lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody,

    Yes you are.

    At what? And to quote Trevor, Be precise.



    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it, lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in any conversational context.

    Precisely, you are an idiot troll.

    hth


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 19:37:41
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 12:03 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified motor
    mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor mechanic" he
    offered to weld up your muffler for $100, one of my grandsons could
    have made the same offer, he isn't a qualified mechanic, but he is a
    welder.


    Exactly, welding exhausts isn't generally what mechanics do, if it was
    a dealership they would replace, not repair.

    It wouldn't matter if I was a mechanic or not. There is no formal requirement to be acting in a professional capacity *just* to do someone
    a favour.

    Gotta be a troll.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:30:27
    On 16/07/2026 9:46 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 8:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:45 pm, Axel wrote:

    team neanderthal don't like dem der facts! they recoil in horror..

    ÿFrom the moron who thinks a "fact" is anything the mental case tells
    him it is :)

    I really do live in your head rent free, eh Darren?

    The evidence is that he is in yours.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:33:49
    On 17/07/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in 25
    minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need to
    explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    There *is* no advantage Felix. As usual, he's talking out of his arse.



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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:34:08
    On 17/07/2026 2:05 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:42 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:10 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:05 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 8:47 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became >>>>>>>>>>>>> a geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, >>>>>>>>>>>> just more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have >>>>>>>>>>> the power to be smart, and good at something, what you need >>>>>>>>>>> is willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, >>>>>>>>>> reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, >>>>>>>>>> means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and >>>>>>>>>> skills. While it's true they often overlap and support one >>>>>>>>>> another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a >>>>>>>>>> highly educated person may lack practical judgment. Bottom >>>>>>>>>> line, intelligence and education are not the same thing!


    thanks. saved me the trouble. our intellectual level is what >>>>>>>>> we're born with, and it can't change. someone with (say) an IQ >>>>>>>>> of 125 can't make it go to 160, no matter how much they study >>>>>>>>> and learn, for example.

    That's a cop out.

    rubbish

    Most people never realise their full potential, they get to some >>>>>>>> level acceptable to them, and decide that it's too much trouble >>>>>>>> to go further.

    that's beside the point. but are you claiming someone with an IQ >>>>>>> of 125 can push it to 160 and turn into an Einstein? if so you're >>>>>>> wrong.

    Some evidence of that?


    OMG are you really this stupid.!

    No evidence then

    if you're really stupid enough to believe it's possible to 'make a
    silk purse out of a sows ear', intellectually speaking, then I pity
    you. but lets push the example then, shall we. so you're happy to
    suggest that someone with an IQ of 90 could become smart enough to be
    a rocket scientist. no sensible person would think that. you must be
    really stupid.

    You keep banging on about IQs, how do you determine them?

    by IQ tests, which determine where participants fall on the IQ scale.

    The tests that they used to hand out are largely discredited, some
    people had a talent for them so got a high IQ, but it didn't mean that
    they were more intelligent.

    yes they are not infallible, as I've previously said. IQ results can be skewed by education level, aptitude, practice in doing similar tests,
    and so on. but IQ is not the crux of the matter. this discussion is
    about your false contention that anyone can achieve what ever they want
    if they're just determined enough and work hard enough at it. as I've
    been trying to make you understand, we are ALL limited by our innate abilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or just a talent for something. no matter hard hard I try I will never be able to sing like
    John Farnham used to be able to.

    No, I didn't say that anybody can achieve anything, what I said was that
    most people never achieve their full potential. That may be their own
    fault, or due to circumstances beyond their control.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:36:21
    On 17/07/2026 12:08 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it,
    lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in any
    conversational context.


    liar

    Prove it.




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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:40:13
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 4:46 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:15 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than
    others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the >>>>>>>> power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn,
    reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand,
    means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and skills. >>>>>>> While it's true they often overlap and support one another, a
    brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a highly educated >>>>>>> person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, intelligence and >>>>>>> education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are
    unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you >>>>>> want to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't
    have what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our
    physiology, which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try?

    no. I'm well aware of my limitations. but who knows, maybe I could
    have got a pilots licence if I really tried, but I would never have
    got a job as an airline pilot. I'm quite sure of that!

    A lot of being a pilot is training your reflexes, Most of the time,
    flying an airliner is not that difficult these days. Before takeoff,
    the details of fuel, weight etc are fed into the computer along with
    the route. After takeoff, the autopilot does most of the work, if you
    are above 25000 feet you HAVE to be on autopilot, and, in most
    circumstances, the plane can land itself. What the pilot gets paid for
    is knowing what to do if things go wrong, and being able to react to
    the problem quickly and accurately.

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they have high
    IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly intelligent
    people, but a lot of them knew everything about their chosen subject,
    and bugger all about anything else.


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:45:26
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change a >>>>>>> clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, for >>>>>>> some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did among >>>>>> many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in
    25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need to
    explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are drive
    on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something up top,
    up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with both hoists
    and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:46:37
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software
    that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you can't
    recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you think you
    never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or maybe it was
    a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 21:48:19
    On 16/07/2026 10:18 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:



    "that constitutes touting for work (in public) as a qualified
    motor mechanic" where is the bit about "as a qualified motor
    mechanic"

    He's brayed he's a qualified mechanic many times. Give up your
    pathetic and desperate enabling, it doesn't help him and you have
    lost all integrity by continuing on with it.

    I'm not "Enabling" anybody, I'm pointing out shortcomings in your
    mate's contentions. Like I said, you don't be a qualified mechanic
    to weld an exhaust, I've even done it myself.

    Qualified or not qualified wasn't the point. The point that was made
    was that the exhaust *was not worth welding*. More about the why.
    This is because of the nature of Felix' driving habits - short trips
    - which lead to a buildup of acids in the exhaust system. These acids
    corrode the inside out of mufflers and pipes long before any signs
    appear on the outside. Once they appear on the outside, and
    specifically on the *underside*, that tells you all you need to know
    - it's going to be rotten all the way through - don't bother welding
    it. The putty patch Felix had put on the muffler was the easiest and
    best *short term* fix at that time. If it were my car, I'd have stuck
    a new cat back exhaust system on it, preferably of stainless, because
    the car was low mileage and in good nick - and kept the car. Felix
    wanted shed of it and I get where Felix is coming from, I like new
    cars too. In fact the last used car we bought was a TW Magna. Been
    all new cars here since then.

    I don't know how many times you have felt the need to repeat all this.
    You seem to have an uncanny ability (well self perceived ability) to
    diagnose things from a distance.

    Experience Keith, experience. Seen it and dealt with it many many times.

    Pretty poor experience judging by your efforts.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 22:00:10


    On 17/7/2026 9:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in
    25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need to
    explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    There *is* no advantage Felix. As usual, he's talking out of his arse.

    Big advantage Darren. Your inexperience is showing.

    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 22:10:35


    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did
    among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in
    25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need
    to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with both
    hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    I worked on standard trucks in mining, not the earthmoving trucks.
    Ever seen a truck hoist? I have, used them too. Compared to a pit - slow.

    https://aussiecarhoists.com.au/product-category/rotisseries/truck-hoists

    I did move into earthmoving equipment after a while, face shovels for
    the most part but underground loaders and dump trucks in one mine.

    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 23:03:37
    On 17/07/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with both
    hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    His mental prowess is staggering :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 23:08:35
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their chosen subject,
    and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in
    anything other than their special subject and as such are largely
    ignorant to the world around them, or they just can't comprehend
    anything that isn't part of their "bubble" I can't tell you. But it *is*
    very common.





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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:09:45


    On 17/7/2026 11:03 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with
    both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits. >>

    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    His mental prowess is staggering :)

    Yours certainly isn't! Truck hoists have been around since I used my
    first truck hoist way back in the very early 70s. That would have been
    73 or 74. Was working in the truck division of the GM dealership in
    those days - lots of Chev, Bedford and Isuzu trucks to work on too. Even
    had a towtruck on hand suitable for towing trucks.

    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:43:26
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:08 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it,
    lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in
    any conversational context.


    liar

    Prove it.


    you prove what you said


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:49:37
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly
    intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their
    chosen subject, and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in anything other than their special subject

    because they put all their time and effort into their specialty

    and as such are largely ignorant to the world around them, or they
    just can't comprehend anything that isn't part of their "bubble" I
    can't tell you. But it *is* very common.







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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:59:59
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software
    that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with
    them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or
    maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 23:54:11
    On 17/07/2026 6:50 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:46 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 3:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 12:19 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/07/2026 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That pics has been mentioned before, no boasting in it, just old
    being replaced by new, nothing more than that.

    Circle the wagon folks, one of us is under attack.

    Lol :)


    You're how old again?

    Exactly 10 years older than you, junior :)



    You're not even the mental age of a 10 year old, son, 10 year olds can
    count.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:00:22
    On 17/07/2026 7:46 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software
    that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them. >>>>
    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or
    maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    Only if you quote the actual posts, otherwise you are a liar.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:23:03
    On 16/07/2026 5:03 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 6:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim
    you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    I'd go so far as to *guarantee* they haven't.



    Well when people solicit for work, claim to be qualified and provide
    plenty of photographic evidence that show they were working on motor
    vehicles and fabricating stuff in a workshop they must have records, surely?

    I'd be surprised if business license records aren't kept in Victoria,
    both current and historical.
    Pretty sure there needs to be at least one *qualified* mechanic on staff
    as well when running an automotive repair business, even in Victoria...







    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 00:26:36
    On 16/07/2026 7:12 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 1:44 pm, Daryl wrote:

    LOL, since when do you need to be a "qualified motor mechanic" to
    weld an exhaust?

    Go back to sleep Daryl... jeezus wept you are dumb.

    More irony from the utter fucktard who was confused by plastic and glass :)



    Thanks for your input, Dumber.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 09:06:17
    On 18/07/2026 12:49 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly
    intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their
    chosen subject, and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in
    anything other than their special subject

    because they put all their time and effort into their specialty

    Their focus becomes extremely intense, but also incredibly narrow.




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    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 09:08:20
    On 18/07/2026 12:43 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:08 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it,
    lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in
    any conversational context.


    liar

    Prove it.


    you prove what you said

    You first.

    See Felix? Anyone can play this ridiculous game, although I have to acknowledge your mastery of it.



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    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 09:17:54
    On 17/7/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 4:46 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:15 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:43 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 15/7/2026 7:30 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 5:38 pm, Axel wrote:

    and btw, being smarter than someone is nothing to be proud >>>>>>>>>>>> of, because it's not something you've achieved, it's just >>>>>>>>>>>> what you're born with. so claiming you're smarter than >>>>>>>>>>>> others, is just another example of your inflated ego. HTH >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Nope, anybody can work to improve themselves.

    but that's not making themselves smarter

    The son of some friends of ours gave no indication of being >>>>>>>>>>> clever, but he worked at it, got to university, and became a >>>>>>>>>>> geologist.


    you can't change biology. he didn't make himself smarter, just >>>>>>>>>> more educated and qualified as a geologist

    Unless you are born with some sort of disability, you have the >>>>>>>>> power to be smart, and good at something, what you need is
    willpower.

    ps. you say you're smarter than me, but I don't see a lot of >>>>>>>>>> evidence of it

    Here's just one piece of evidence, I bought a Toyota not an MG. >>>>>>>>
    Being smart (or intelligent) is the natural ability to learn, >>>>>>>> reason, and solve problems. Being educated, on the other hand, >>>>>>>> means having systematically acquired formal knowledge and
    skills. While it's true they often overlap and support one
    another, a brilliant person may lack formal schooling, and a
    highly educated person may lack practical judgment. Bottom line, >>>>>>>> intelligence and education are not the same thing!

    The are plenty of smart uneducated people around. Unless you are >>>>>>> unfortunately born as a dullard, what you are depends on what you >>>>>>> want to be, and how much effort you are willing to put into it.

    wrong! there's no way I could ever be an airline pilot. I don't
    have what it takes. we are all limited in what we can do by our
    physiology, which includes out innate intellectual ability.

    Did you ever try?

    no. I'm well aware of my limitations. but who knows, maybe I could
    have got a pilots licence if I really tried, but I would never have
    got a job as an airline pilot. I'm quite sure of that!

    A lot of being a pilot is training your reflexes, Most of the time,
    flying an airliner is not that difficult these days. Before takeoff,
    the details of fuel, weight etc are fed into the computer along with
    the route. After takeoff, the autopilot does most of the work, if you
    are above 25000 feet you HAVE to be on autopilot, and, in most
    circumstances, the plane can land itself. What the pilot gets paid
    for is knowing what to do if things go wrong, and being able to react
    to the problem quickly and accurately.

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their chosen subject,
    and bugger all about anything else.


    I've also seen that quite a few times, a friends sister is like that, it
    would take her half a day to write her name with all the letters after
    it and she is brilliant at her job but when it comes to things outside
    her field she struggles.
    For example my wife had to open the bonnet of her car and show her how
    to fill the windscreen washer reservoir, she had no idea how to do such
    a simple task.

    --
    Daryl

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 09:28:42
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did
    among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in
    25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need
    to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with both
    hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on a
    hoist.
    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your
    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move, if
    you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but it
    would be very cramped in a pit.
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a workshop
    that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less of
    an "advantage".

    --
    Daryl

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 10:00:23
    Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:43 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:08 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it, >>>>>> lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in
    any conversational context.


    liar

    Prove it.


    you prove what you said

    You first.

    See Felix? Anyone can play this ridiculous game, although I have to acknowledge your mastery of it.


    no, you're the bullshit expert


    --
    Linux Mint 22.3
    "Your biggest enemy is yourself with the sheer volume
    of lies and bullshit you post"- clocky re noddy


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 12:35:19
    On 18/07/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on a hoist.

    Not the least of which, back in the 1970's which is the time frame this
    moron is talking about, you could probably count the number of people
    *in the world* who had a dedicated truck hoist on the fingers of one hand :)

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your
    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move, if
    you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but it
    would be very cramped in a pit.
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a workshop
    that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less of
    an "advantage".

    There is virtually *no* advantage to having a pit these days, which is
    why you'd have to go a very long way to actually finding anyone who has
    one.



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    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 12:36:05
    On 18/07/2026 10:00 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:43 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 12:08 pm, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:

    I was first to use that expression here. I want the kudos for it, >>>>>>> lol! :)

    No you weren't. You have no idea what "precise" actually means in >>>>>> any conversational context.


    liar

    Prove it.


    you prove what you said

    You first.

    See Felix? Anyone can play this ridiculous game, although I have to
    acknowledge your mastery of it.


    no, you're the bullshit expert

    Not compared to your clueless mental mate :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 12:45:49


    On 18/7/2026 12:49 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly
    intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their
    chosen subject, and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in
    anything other than their special subject

    because they put all their time and effort into their specialty

    And they aren't easily distracted, in fact very focused on the task at
    hand. I have worked with people like that.>
    and as such are largely ignorant to the world around them, or they
    just can't comprehend anything that isn't part of their "bubble" I
    can't tell you. But it *is* very common.








    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 12:51:18


    On 18/7/2026 2:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 5:03 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 6:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim >>>>> you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    I'd go so far as to *guarantee* they haven't.



    Well when people solicit for work, claim to be qualified and provide
    plenty of photographic evidence that show they were working on motor vehicles and fabricating stuff in a workshop they must have records,
    surely?

    I'd be surprised if business license records aren't kept in Victoria,
    both current and historical.
    Pretty sure there needs to be at least one *qualified* mechanic on staff
    as well when running an automotive repair business, even in Victoria...

    Well, the VACC would surely think so, especially from a person who
    claims to be a member and claims to have the sign up out front. Funny,
    isn't it, how the VACC themselves couldn't find the liar on their books.
    Or his business.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 12:53:27


    On 18/7/2026 9:06 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:49 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they >>>>> have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly
    intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their
    chosen subject, and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in
    anything other than their special subject

    because they put all their time and effort into their specialty

    Their focus becomes extremely intense, but also incredibly narrow.


    That is precisely what *focus* is. You really don't have a clue, do you?
    If you had a clue, you might have been able to qualify for an
    apprenticeship but, no.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:01:48


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did
    among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in >>>>> 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need
    to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with
    both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits. >>

    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4. They
    aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then back
    up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move, if
    you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but it
    would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a workshop
    that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less of
    an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same time
    as underneath the car (or truck).


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:04:44


    On 18/7/2026 12:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on a
    hoist.

    Not the least of which, back in the 1970's which is the time frame this moron is talking about, you could probably count the number of people
    *in the world* who had a dedicated truck hoist on the fingers of one
    hand :)

    HTF would you know? You were a kid in short pants still failing high
    school then.>
    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your
    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move,
    if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but
    it would be very cramped in a pit.
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    There is virtually *no* advantage to having a pit these days, which is
    why you'd have to go a very long way to actually finding anyone who has
    one.

    Yep, drive on 4 post hoists are now very common.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:25:44
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can
    change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>> ECUs. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox >>>>>>> already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden
    in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I
    need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having
    worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of
    well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    especially if you don't have a truck hoist!


    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again.

    that makes sense

    Been there done all that.

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move,
    if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but
    it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    plus as you've mentioned, not all workshops have room for a decent hoist


    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).


    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is working on
    the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:26:34
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 12:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    Not the least of which, back in the 1970's which is the time frame
    this moron is talking about, you could probably count the number of
    people *in the world* who had a dedicated truck hoist on the fingers
    of one hand :)

    HTF would you know? You were a kid in short pants still failing high
    school then

    LOL

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have
    your tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    There is virtually *no* advantage to having a pit these days, which
    is why you'd have to go a very long way to actually finding anyone
    who has one.

    Yep, drive on 4 post hoists are now very common.



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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:36:10
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they
    have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly intelligent
    people, but a lot of them knew everything about their chosen subject,
    and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in anything other than their special subject and as such are largely
    ignorant to the world around them, or they just can't comprehend
    anything that isn't part of their "bubble" I can't tell you. But it *is* very common.

    lol! As if you'd know Gibbens.

    Meet with a wide cross-section of society while you were pushing a broom around the Subi workshop did you?


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:50:19
    Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:49 am, Axel wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 9:40 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 3:36 pm, Daryl wrote:

    I know 4 airline pilots, all of them are intelligent people but
    without testing there is nothing about them that suggests that they >>>>> have high IQ's, they just seem like normal people.

    I've worked with a number of PhDs, real scientists, highly
    intelligent people, but a lot of them knew everything about their
    chosen subject, and bugger all about anything else.

    That tends to be a common theme with people who are leaders in their
    fields. Their knowledge of their particular area of interest is
    staggeringly brilliant, but their general knowledge tends to be
    appallingly poor. Whether that's because they have little interest in
    anything other than their special subject

    because they put all their time and effort into their specialty

    Their focus becomes extremely intense, but also incredibly narrow.

    Like da Vinci & Michelangelo?

    Once again, you're sprouting nonsense Gibbens.



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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 13:55:40
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software
    that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with them. >>>>
    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or
    maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    Well then, let's see the links.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 14:03:31
    Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 5:03 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 6:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work, claim >>>>> you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    I'd go so far as to *guarantee* they haven't.



    Well when people solicit for work, claim to be qualified and provide
    plenty of photographic evidence that show they were working on motor vehicles and fabricating stuff in a workshop they must have records,
    surely?

    I'd be surprised if business license records aren't kept in Victoria,
    both current and historical.
    Pretty sure there needs to be at least one *qualified* mechanic on staff
    as well when running an automotive repair business, even in Victoria...

    Fwiw, GhatGPT says 'Nyet'.
    https://tinyurl.com/8pme4m9j


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 15:11:22
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with
    them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or
    maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    Well then, let's see the links.


    you have more chance of getting blood out of a stone

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 15:56:13


    On 18/7/2026 1:25 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>> ECUs. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox >>>>>>>> already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden >>>>>>> in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I >>>>>>> need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having
    worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of
    well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    especially if you don't have a truck hoist!

    Yep, the truck dealership had no truck hoists, just pits.>

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again.

    that makes sense

    It's a PITA.>
    Been there done all that.

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move,
    if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but
    it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    plus as you've mentioned, not all workshops have room for a decent hoist

    The truck dealership I worked at in Hobart had half a dozen long pits
    all along the south wall. The only hoist was that used by the lube
    jockey out near reception and that was only for cars. All car and truck repairs were done on the floor or over the pits.>>
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).


    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is working on
    the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 17:56:47


    On 18/7/2026 1:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 12:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    Not the least of which, back in the 1970's which is the time frame
    this moron is talking about, you could probably count the number of
    people *in the world* who had a dedicated truck hoist on the fingers
    of one hand :)

    HTF would you know? You were a kid in short pants still failing high
    school then

    LOL

    Isn't it weird? I was actually working on cars and trucks in the 70s and Darren's trying to tell me what went on in workshops back then. FFS,
    even the Hydro in my home town used to have a 4 post truck hoist at the
    local depot and it was used just for general servicing of the trucks
    they used. They had hundreds of trucks of up to 20 tons in my home
    district for line maintenance. The Hydro in Tassie is (was?) a huge undertaking back in the days when it was the HEC.>
    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have
    your tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    There is virtually *no* advantage to having a pit these days, which
    is why you'd have to go a very long way to actually finding anyone
    who has one.

    Yep, drive on 4 post hoists are now very common.




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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 18:21:00
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 1:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 12:35 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover
    on a hoist.

    Not the least of which, back in the 1970's which is the time frame
    this moron is talking about, you could probably count the number of
    people *in the world* who had a dedicated truck hoist on the
    fingers of one hand :)

    HTF would you know? You were a kid in short pants still failing high
    school then

    LOL

    Isn't it weird? I was actually working on cars and trucks in the 70s
    and Darren's trying to tell me what went on in workshops back then.
    FFS, even the Hydro in my home town used to have a 4 post truck hoist
    at the local depot and it was used just for general servicing of the
    trucks they used. They had hundreds of trucks of up to 20 tons in my
    home district for line maintenance. The Hydro in Tassie is (was?) a
    huge undertaking back in the days when it was the HEC.>

    he would probably try to teach his grandma how to suck eggs

    (for those who don't know the expression)

    google AI
    "Teaching your grandmother to suck eggs" is a classic English idiom used
    to describe the act of giving advice to someone who is already an expert
    or much more experienced than you. It usually comes in the form of a
    warning: "Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs."

    Here are a few quick facts about the phrase:
    The Origin: Before the invention of modern cooking or refrigeration, a
    common way to eat raw eggs was to pierce tiny holes in the ends and suck
    out the inside contents. An older, highly experienced person (like a grandmother) would obviously be much better at this than an
    inexperienced youth.
    First Recorded Use: The earliest known written reference dates back to
    1736 in Nathan Bailey?s Dictionarium Britannicum.
    The Meaning: It serves as a polite (or slightly patronizing) reminder to
    avoid giving unsolicited instructions to someone who likely knows far
    more about the topic than you do.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have
    your tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room
    to move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under
    a hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a
    disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    There is virtually *no* advantage to having a pit these days, which
    is why you'd have to go a very long way to actually finding anyone
    who has one.

    Yep, drive on 4 post hoists are now very common.






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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 18:24:29
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 1:25 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the
    gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden >>>>>>>> in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I >>>>>>>> need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are >>>>>> drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having
    worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of
    well designed pits.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Pits are built to a *standard*....



    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    especially if you don't have a truck hoist!

    Yep, the truck dealership had no truck hoists, just pits.>

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    NO shit sherlock!.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again.


    that makes sense

    It's a PITA.>
    Been there done all that.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Really?, sounds like you couldn`t organize a fuck in a brothel!.


    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.




    plus as you've mentioned, not all workshops have room for a decent hoist

    The truck dealership I worked at in Hobart had half a dozen long pits
    all along the south wall.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    UH-HUH, sure...So, a *small* truck pit would be about 8m,(Rigid) that x
    6 = 48m!. Jobs done on one in the middle!. What then?

    !9' 8" x 6 = 118ft. All along one wall And *that* is only if it`s
    one continuous pit. At least *another* 24ft if not! (142ft) ....Fucken
    chaos. (or bullshit I`ll go with the latter)


    The only hoist was that used by the lube
    jockey out near reception and that was only for cars. All car and truck repairs were done on the floor or over the pits.>>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Cars over a truck pit, and vice versa??. REALLY?


    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).


    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is working
    on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    No You.

    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And it
    stays up there until work underneath completed....
    Yer talking shit APU.



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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 21:59:18
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 1:25 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the
    gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s
    Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are >>>>>>> drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of >>>>>>> well designed pits.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Pits are built to a *standard*....



    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover
    on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    especially if you don't have a truck hoist!

    Yep, the truck dealership had no truck hoists, just pits.>

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿNO shit sherlock!.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your >>>>
    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again.


    that makes sense

    It's a PITA.>
    Been there done all that.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Really?, sounds like you couldn`t organize a fuck in a brothel!.


    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.




    plus as you've mentioned, not all workshops have room for a decent hoist >>>
    The truck dealership I worked at in Hobart had half a dozen long pits
    all along the south wall.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    UH-HUH, sure...So, a *small* truck pit would be about 8m,(Rigid) that x
    6 = 48m!. Jobs done on one in the middle!. What then?

    ÿÿ !9' 8" x 6 = 118ft. All along one wall And *that* is only if it`s
    one continuous pit. At least *another* 24ft if not! (142ft) ....Fucken chaos. (or bullshit I`ll go with the latter)


    ÿThe only hoist was that used by the lube
    jockey out near reception and that was only for cars. All car and
    truck repairs were done on the floor or over the pits.>>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Cars over a truck pit, and vice versa??. REALLY?


    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).


    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is working
    on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And it
    stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge
    amount of time wasted.
    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was up
    and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same job
    again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go and
    down once.

    --
    Daryl

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 22:24:28


    On 18/7/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:


    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Getting ready for another Les' engine experience! All go boom!>>
    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten
    or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And
    it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge amount of time wasted.
    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was up
    and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same job
    again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go and
    down once.

    On a pit you go up and down the steps *once*.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 22:38:14
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is working
    on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten
    or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And
    it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out of
    the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was up
    and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same job
    again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go and
    down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes 30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed with the
    handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but is a lot
    slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically operated at
    a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It takes around 45
    seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the pressure release to
    be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and I'm not crazy about
    having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those locks being slammed into
    the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 22:44:36


    On 18/7/2026 10:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like
    the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten
    or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And
    it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge
    amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out of
    the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    Steps, not a ladder, at one or both ends.>
    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was
    up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same
    job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go
    and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes 30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed with the
    handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but is a lot
    slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically operated at
    a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It takes around 45
    seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the pressure release to
    be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and I'm not crazy about
    having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those locks being slammed into
    the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    Walk up steps, no climbing involved.

    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 21:27:44
    On 18/07/2026 12:03 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 5:03 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 16/7/2026 6:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 6:05 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 12:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

    It's not the end of the story at all. You solicited for work,
    claim you are qualified and it's on public record.

    ROTFL :)

    Has anyone ever

    ...seen evidence of your qualifications, business license, council
    approval to run a business at that location etc?

    I bet they haven't :-)

    I'd go so far as to *guarantee* they haven't.



    Well when people solicit for work, claim to be qualified and provide
    plenty of photographic evidence that show they were working on motor
    vehicles and fabricating stuff in a workshop they must have records,
    surely?

    I'd be surprised if business license records aren't kept in Victoria,
    both current and historical.
    Pretty sure there needs to be at least one *qualified* mechanic on
    staff as well when running an automotive repair business, even in
    Victoria...

    Fwiw, GhatGPT says 'Nyet'.
    https://tinyurl.com/8pme4m9j



    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria, it's
    about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons can still operate.






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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 23:56:53
    On 18/07/2026 11:27 pm, Clocky wrote:

    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria, it's about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons can still operate.

    ROTFL :)

    And we all know just how well the licensing system in places like WA has
    done at weeding out the clueless fuckwits. Right Mr "Im not a fucking glazier"? :)

    Hahahahaha :)




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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 00:06:55


    On 18/7/2026 11:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 11:27 pm, Clocky wrote:

    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria,
    it's about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons
    can still operate.

    ROTFL :)

    And we all know just how well the licensing system in places like WA has done at weeding out the clueless fuckwits. Right Mr "Im not a fucking glazier"? :)

    For the record, only those who sign up to and successfully complete an apprenticeship will be granted a licence in WA. Clocky qualifies for
    one, I qualify for one, even Daryl. But you Darren? Not in the race!
    So the laugh is on you!>
    Hahahahaha :)

    The Victorian apprenticeship entry standard weeded the clueless out as
    well, isn't that right Mr Fraud? You couldn't even get to *first base*
    so had to *LIE*. FFS, you had no clue how the apprenticeship system in Victoria worked - even now! All you have is lies and delusions. Your
    reality is a life of failure. Best you crawl back under your rock!



    --
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    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 11:40:31
    On 18-Jul-26 9:59 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 1:25 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs. But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I >>>>>>>>>>>>> did among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the >>>>>>>>>>> gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s >>>>>>>>>> Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits >>>>>>>> are drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want >>>>>>>> something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of >>>>>>>> well designed pits.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Pits are built to a *standard*....



    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover >>>>>> on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on
    a truck.

    especially if you don't have a truck hoist!

    Yep, the truck dealership had no truck hoists, just pits.>

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿNO shit sherlock!.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your >>>>>
    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again.


    that makes sense

    It's a PITA.>
    Been there done all that.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Really?, sounds like you couldn`t organize a fuck in a brothel!.


    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.




    plus as you've mentioned, not all workshops have room for a decent
    hoist

    The truck dealership I worked at in Hobart had half a dozen long pits
    all along the south wall.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    UH-HUH, sure...So, a *small* truck pit would be about 8m,(Rigid) that
    x 6 = 48m!. Jobs done on one in the middle!. What then?

    ÿÿÿ !9' 8" x 6 = 118ft. All along one wall And *that* is only if it`s
    one continuous pit. At least *another* 24ft if not! (142ft) ....Fucken
    chaos. (or bullshit I`ll go with the latter)


    ÿÿThe only hoist was that used by the lube
    jockey out near reception and that was only for cars. All car and
    truck repairs were done on the floor or over the pits.>>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Cars over a truck pit, and vice versa??. REALLY?


    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a
    disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).


    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is working
    on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I`ve only seen pics. and pics of the finished product, but I agree. !


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten
    or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And
    it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge amount of time wasted.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Agreed!.

    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was up
    and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same job
    again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go and
    down once.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yep, yep first time on most jobs, yer learning procedure, so that
    will happen!. However, when these super spanner twirlers were doing
    25min. clutch replacements on an (UH-HUH sure) regular basis you`d think
    they would have it sorted.

    But look who it is??....????



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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 11:49:50
    On 18-Jul-26 10:38 PM, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like
    the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten
    or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And
    it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge
    amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out of
    the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was
    up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same
    job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go
    and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes 30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed with the
    handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but is a lot
    slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically operated at
    a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It takes around 45
    seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the pressure release to
    be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and I'm not crazy about
    having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those locks being slammed into
    the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Recently got a four poster (With wheel alignment both ends, plus
    jacks) installed here. There`s not much you can`t achieve with one..





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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 11:53:41
    On 18-Jul-26 10:44 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 10:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like
    the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist,
    unfasten or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift
    it up. And it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it
    only take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't
    a huge amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out
    of the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    Steps, not a ladder, at one or both ends.>
    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was
    up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same
    job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go
    and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes
    30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's
    designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed with
    the handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but is a
    lot slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically
    operated at a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It takes
    around 45 seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the
    pressure release to be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and
    I'm not crazy about having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those
    locks being slammed into the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    Walk up steps, no climbing involved.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Guess what, using steps is *climbing*



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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 12:03:13
    On 18/7/2026 10:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like
    the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)

    LOL.


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist, unfasten
    or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift it up. And
    it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it only
    take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't a huge
    amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out of
    the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was
    up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same
    job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go
    and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes 30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed with the
    handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but is a lot
    slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically operated at
    a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It takes around 45
    seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the pressure release to
    be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and I'm not crazy about
    having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those locks being slammed into
    the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)



    Might as well just jack up the car and crawl around underneath, a pit
    would be slightly better than that but not much.


    --
    Daryl

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 12:06:21
    On 19/7/2026 11:49 am, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 10:38 PM, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well organized
    space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very much like
    the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist,
    unfasten or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift
    it up. And it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it
    only take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't
    a huge amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out
    of the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time doing
    that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the car was
    up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do that same
    job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only need to go
    and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes
    30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's
    designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed with
    the handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but is a
    lot slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically
    operated at a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It takes
    around 45 seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the
    pressure release to be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and
    I'm not crazy about having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those
    locks being slammed into the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿRecently got a four poster (With wheel alignment both ends, plus
    jacks) installed here. There`s not much you can`t achieve with one..



    A 2 post is better if you are doing engine swaps which require lowering
    the sub frame or lifting the body off the sub frame, apart from that a 4
    post is just as good.


    --
    Daryl

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 12:09:43
    On 19/7/2026 11:53 am, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 10:44 PM, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 10:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well
    organized space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very
    much like the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist,
    unfasten or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift
    it up. And it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it
    only take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't
    a huge amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out
    of the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    Steps, not a ladder, at one or both ends.>
    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time
    doing that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the
    car was up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do
    that same job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only
    need to go and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes
    30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's
    designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed
    with the handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but
    is a lot slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically
    operated at a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It
    takes around 45 seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the
    pressure release to be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and
    I'm not crazy about having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those
    locks being slammed into the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    Walk up steps, no climbing involved.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿGuess what, using steps is *climbing*



    LOL, maybe not a problem when you are a lot younger than 73:-)
    We used to own a 2 story house and one of the reasons for selling was no longer wanting to go up and down stairs.

    --
    Daryl

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 12:14:53
    On 19/07/2026 11:53 am, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 10:44 PM, Xeno wrote:

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    Walk up steps, no climbing involved.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿGuess what, using steps is *climbing*

    Apparently he's mastered the art of gliding up and down steps. No real surprise there. He's mastered the art of talking absolute shit :)



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 12:16:22
    On 19/07/2026 11:49 am, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 10:38 PM, Noddy wrote:

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿRecently got a four poster (With wheel alignment both ends, plus
    jacks) installed here. There`s not much you can`t achieve with one..

    They're the shit. Especially with the jacks. Two posts are still better
    for some jobs, but the 4 post is my preference.


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 12:18:22
    On 19/07/2026 12:03 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 10:38 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)

    LOL.

    I'll probably end up doing it this week Daz, as I realised after you
    left that the main bearings I got sent for that engine are the wrong
    ones do I'll have to wait for the new ones to arrive.


    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)



    Might as well just jack up the car and crawl around underneath, a pit
    would be slightly better than that but not much.

    Hence the reason why next to nobody would be even *remotely* interested
    in having a pit these days, let alone using one.


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 13:05:36
    On 19-Jul-26 12:06 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 19/7/2026 11:49 am, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 10:38 PM, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 6:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 18-Jul-26 3:56 PM, Xeno wrote:

    yes, one person could be working underneath while another is
    working on the engine. noddy strikes out again! (apu)

    In fact, he is showing a decided lack of experience in the trade.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿ No You.

    I was in Noddy's workshop yesterday, looks like a very well
    organized space with an engine rebuild taking place, its looks very
    much like the workshop of a very experienced competent mechanic.

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)


    So yer going to replace a clutch, you run it onto the hoist,
    unfasten or remove anything under the bonnet you need to, and lift
    it up. And it stays up there until work underneath completed....
    ÿÿYer talking shit APU.


    What you described is the correct way of doing things, even so it
    only take a few seconds for a hoist to go up and down so there isn't
    a huge amount of time wasted.

    Yep. I don't know *anyone* who would want to go anywhere near a pit
    these days, even if just for the hassle of having to climb in and out
    of the fucking thing whenever you needed to get a different tool.

    I replaced the rear muffler on my Boxster yesterday, first time
    doing that job so I was learning what order to do things in so the
    car was up and down on the hoist quite a few times, if I had to do
    that same job again I would know exactly what to do so it would only
    need to go and down once.

    My 4 post hoist has an air over hydraulic jack at each end, and takes
    30 seconds to raise fully. It's a lot faster going down, but it's
    designed specifically so the operator can vary the lowering speed
    with the handle. My two post takes around the same time to raise, but
    is a lot slower coming down as the flow control valve is electrically
    operated at a fixed rate and can't be varied like the 4 post. It
    takes around 45 seconds to fully lower, but that's because I set the
    pressure release to be that slow as it only has cast alloy locks and
    I'm not crazy about having a 4 tonne vehicle on the thing and those
    locks being slammed into the catches.

    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ÿÿRecently got a four poster (With wheel alignment both ends, plus
    jacks) installed here. There`s not much you can`t achieve with one..



    A 2 post is better if you are doing engine swaps which require lowering
    the sub frame or lifting the body off the sub frame, apart from that a 4 post is just as good.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yep sure, there`s always exceptions.




    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 15:13:04
    On 19/7/2026 12:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/07/2026 12:03 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 18/7/2026 10:38 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Fucking kiss arse. Your muffler is still going to cost you :)

    LOL.

    I'll probably end up doing it this week Daz, as I realised after you
    left that the main bearings I got sent for that engine are the wrong
    ones do I'll have to wait for the new ones to arrive.


    No rush, I actually like the car being a lot quieter and I don't know if
    its my imagination or not but the car seems quicker possibly because now
    when I rev it past 3000rpm its not crazy loud so I let it rev.
    BTW please leave those extra mounts on, I looked at a parts diagram and
    found out that there is supposed to be another support which has never
    been on the car since I've owned it, the Porsche wrecker is looking to
    see if he has one for me.


    Either way, I would happily raise and lower both of them many times a
    day and climb in and out of a bloody pit :)



    Might as well just jack up the car and crawl around underneath, a pit
    would be slightly better than that but not much.

    Hence the reason why next to nobody would be even *remotely* interested
    in having a pit these days, let alone using one.


    Certainly not for cars.

    --
    Daryl

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  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 17:22:43
    On 19/07/2026 12:06 am, Xeno wrote:

    Victoria worked - even now! All you have is lies and delusions. Your
    reality is a life of failure. Best you crawl back under your rock!

    No You.

    oooOOOhhh all that "vitriol and invective"...

    What a wonderful life you lead, shit-fer-brains. Sit in front of your computer, waiting for it to go "ding", so you have something to whine about.... 6 mins last night, wasnt it? You fucking useless sack of shit.




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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 16:08:15
    On 18/07/2026 9:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 11:27 pm, Clocky wrote:

    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria,
    it's about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons
    can still operate.

    ROTFL :)

    And we all know just how well the licensing system in places like WA has done at weeding out the clueless fuckwits.

    There certainly aren't any mechanics here that would proudly proclaim
    their own Jeep was "All Imperial", claim torque steer is caused by the
    balls in the CV joints, have no idea the US has been metrication their automotive industry since the 70's, rebuild engines guaranteed to
    detonate or shotgunning in hope instead of using a scan tool nor would
    they be braying that the lifting points on an Elise are stupid when they didn't couldn't identify the correct ones etc etc etc.

    Only in Victoria...


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 16:13:12
    On 18/07/2026 10:06 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 11:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 11:27 pm, Clocky wrote:

    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria,
    it's about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons
    can still operate.

    ROTFL :)

    And we all know just how well the licensing system in places like WA
    has done at weeding out the clueless fuckwits. Right Mr "Im not a
    fucking glazier"? :)

    For the record, only those who sign up to and successfully complete an apprenticeship will be granted a licence in WA. Clocky qualifies for
    one, I qualify for one, even Daryl. But you Darren? Not in the race!
    So the laugh is on you!>
    Hahahahaha :)

    The Victorian apprenticeship entry standard weeded the clueless out as
    well, isn't that right Mr Fraud? You couldn't even get to *first base*
    so had to *LIE*. FFS, you had no clue how the apprenticeship system in Victoria worked - even now! All you have is lies and delusions. Your
    reality is a life of failure. Best you crawl back under your rock!


    He's so jealous of anyone who has trade papers isn't he?
    Still bitter because he couldn't cut the mustard to even start an apprenticeship... and then to top it off all the smart bastards in here
    all worked out he's a complete fraud over the last couple of decades.




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 18:36:48


    On 19/7/2026 6:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 10:06 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 11:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 11:27 pm, Clocky wrote:

    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria,
    it's about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons
    can still operate.

    ROTFL :)

    And we all know just how well the licensing system in places like WA
    has done at weeding out the clueless fuckwits. Right Mr "Im not a
    fucking glazier"? :)

    For the record, only those who sign up to and successfully complete an
    apprenticeship will be granted a licence in WA. Clocky qualifies for
    one, I qualify for one, even Daryl. But you Darren? Not in the race!
    So the laugh is on you!>
    Hahahahaha :)

    The Victorian apprenticeship entry standard weeded the clueless out as
    well, isn't that right Mr Fraud? You couldn't even get to *first base*
    so had to *LIE*. FFS, you had no clue how the apprenticeship system in
    Victoria worked - even now! All you have is lies and delusions. Your
    reality is a life of failure. Best you crawl back under your rock!


    He's so jealous of anyone who has trade papers isn't he?

    Indeed he is! Seething with jealous rage!

    Still bitter because he couldn't cut the mustard to even start an apprenticeship... and then to top it off all the smart bastards in here
    all worked out he's a complete fraud over the last couple of decades.

    Yeah, such a pity he drove so many out of here before the fact that he's
    a total fraud became obvious to all and sundry.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 19:13:36


    On 19/7/2026 6:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 9:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 11:27 pm, Clocky wrote:

    No wonder there are so many shonks operating in backwards Victoria,
    it's about the only place where dishonest and disreputable buffoons
    can still operate.

    ROTFL :)

    And we all know just how well the licensing system in places like WA
    has done at weeding out the clueless fuckwits.

    There certainly aren't any mechanics here that would proudly proclaim
    their own Jeep was "All Imperial", claim torque steer is caused by the
    balls in the CV joints, have no idea the US has been metrication their automotive industry since the 70's, rebuild engines guaranteed to
    detonate or shotgunning in hope instead of using a scan tool nor would
    they be braying that the lifting points on an Elise are stupid when they didn't couldn't identify the correct ones etc etc etc.

    Only in Victoria...
    Don't forget when he bought that POS F100, you know, the one he
    complained bitterly about. FFS, he bought it sight unseen! Anyway,
    remember those brake pipes that he complained were made of *copper*. He
    posted photos and it was obvious even to blind freddy that they were
    copper plated pipes. These are often used in harsh environments - like
    high salt areas near the coast. For that matter, you can also get copper nickel alloy brake tubing. The clown couldn't tell but it was obvious
    from the flared ends what was what!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 19:55:59
    On 19/07/2026 5:22 pm, lindsay wrote:
    On 19/07/2026 12:06 am, Xeno wrote:

    Victoria worked - even now! All you have is lies and delusions. Your
    reality is a life of failure. Best you crawl back under your rock!

    No You.

    oooOOOhhh all that "vitriol and invective"...

    What a wonderful life you lead, shit-fer-brains. Sit in front of your computer, waiting for it to go "ding", so you have something to whine about.... 6 mins last night, wasnt it? You fucking useless sack of shit.

    Lol :)



    --
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    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 15:57:28
    On 17/07/2026 10:10 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can change >>>>>>>>> a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing ECUs.ÿ But, >>>>>>>>> for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did
    among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox
    already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden in >>>>> 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I need
    to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with
    both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed pits. >>

    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    I worked on standard trucks in mining, not the earthmoving trucks.
    Ever seen a truck hoist? I have, used them too. Compared to a pit - slow.

    https://aussiecarhoists.com.au/product-category/rotisseries/truck-hoists

    I did move into earthmoving equipment after a while, face shovels for
    the most part but underground loaders and dump trucks in one mine.

    The question is that, if pits are so more efficient, why do you not see
    them in dealerships.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 16:01:56


    On 21/7/2026 3:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 10:10 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can
    change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox >>>>>>> already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden
    in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I
    need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with
    both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed
    pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    I worked on standard trucks in mining, not the earthmoving trucks.
    Ever seen a truck hoist? I have, used them too. Compared to a pit - slow.

    https://aussiecarhoists.com.au/product-category/rotisseries/truck-hoists

    I did move into earthmoving equipment after a while, face shovels for
    the most part but underground loaders and dump trucks in one mine.

    The question is that, if pits are so more efficient, why do you not see
    them in dealerships.

    The type of work being done dictates what is used. Also, pits need to be designed in when the building is constructed. As an example, the Lane
    Toyota workshop in Glen Waverly, Melbourne was an existing building
    converted to a dealer service area hence it was easier to bolt in 2 and
    4 post hoists. No digging, see?

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 16:07:38
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can
    change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox >>>>>>> already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden
    in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I
    need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want something
    up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having worked with
    both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of well designed
    pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on a
    hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4. They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then back
    up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do you
    work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move,
    if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but
    it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same time
    as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.



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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 16:08:31
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with
    them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or
    maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 16:09:36
    On 18/07/2026 2:00 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 7:46 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with
    them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance
    software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to
    think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or
    maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    Only if you quote the actual posts, otherwise you are a liar.

    Klokko the the clown dives in for no apparent reason.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 16:10:29
    On 18/07/2026 3:11 pm, Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with >>>>>>> them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance >>>>>> software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to >>>>>> think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or >>>>>> maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    Well then, let's see the links.


    you have more chance of getting blood out of a stone

    Tut tut, a cliche and in reply to alvo too.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 16:47:30


    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist?

    Short answer, yes and, if two people are working on the vehicle, one can continue while the other goes up the steps to do whatever they need to
    do. That was how much of the work I did over pits was conducted - team
    work. Truck work was typically always team work

    How do you work on brakes with a pit?

    If the pit has jacks, no problem - except for working a bit lower down
    than would be ideal. These days a scissor lift would suit brake tasks.
    Ideal in low roof areas too, cheap to retrofit. Had a couple at the
    college, they were brilliant for brake work. Only raised the vehicle to
    the required height and no more.

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move,
    if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but
    it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    Never found them cramped. >
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.
    Hate to have to point it out, reg checking stations aren't ever doing mechanical work.

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for easy install.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 17:24:08
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with >>>>>>> them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about guidance >>>>>> software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't you try to >>>>>> think what it is that you said. but no skin off my nose, if you
    can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow about, if you
    think you never said anything like that. (but I know you did). or >>>>>> maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.
    So tell everyone one last time how smart you are.

    You're not just a "lightweight" Richardson, you're a contemptible and
    pathetic lightweight. If you any integrity at all you'd quietly depart.

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 18:00:47
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the gearbox >>>>>>>> already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden >>>>>>> in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I >>>>>>> need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are
    drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having
    worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of
    well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do you
    work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to move,
    if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a hoist but
    it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    --
    Daryl

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 18:06:47
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist?

    Short answer, yes and, if two people are working on the vehicle, one can continue while the other goes up the steps to do whatever they need to
    do. That was how much of the work I did over pits was conducted - team
    work. Truck work was typically always team work

    How do you work on brakes with a pit?

    If the pit has jacks, no problem - except for working a bit lower down
    than would be ideal. These days a scissor lift would suit brake tasks.
    Ideal in low roof areas too, cheap to retrofit. Had a couple at the
    college, they were brilliant for brake work. Only raised the vehicle to
    the required height and no more.

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel
    so standing side by side would be cramped.

    Never found them cramped. >
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.
    Hate to have to point it out, reg checking stations aren't ever doing mechanical work.

    In your own words - Well duh. It's still the last place that I saw a pit
    in use.

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the Mazda
    dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings, bur
    neither have pits.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 18:46:43
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with >>>>>>> them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't
    you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin off my
    nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow
    about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I
    know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3
    "Your biggest enemy is yourself with the sheer volume
    of lies and bullshit you post"- clocky re noddy


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 19:09:04


    On 21/7/2026 6:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :)




    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the
    gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s Holden >>>>>>>> in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a hoist. Do I >>>>>>>> need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are >>>>>> drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having
    worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of
    well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover on
    a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do you
    work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel
    so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even less
    of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    These days, likely since the cost of installation of pits is vastly more expensive than a 2 post hoist.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 19:36:14


    On 21/7/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your >>>>
    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist?

    Short answer, yes and, if two people are working on the vehicle, one
    can continue while the other goes up the steps to do whatever they
    need to do. That was how much of the work I did over pits was
    conducted - team work. Truck work was typically always team work

    How do you work on brakes with a pit?

    If the pit has jacks, no problem - except for working a bit lower down
    than would be ideal. These days a scissor lift would suit brake tasks.
    Ideal in low roof areas too, cheap to retrofit. Had a couple at the
    college, they were brilliant for brake work. Only raised the vehicle
    to the required height and no more.

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel
    so standing side by side would be cramped.

    Never found them cramped. >
    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.
    Hate to have to point it out, reg checking stations aren't ever doing
    mechanical work.

    In your own words - Well duh. It's still the last place that I saw a pit
    in use.

    Used pits because they were quick and easy, drive on, drive off.>
    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for
    easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the Mazda dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings, bur
    neither have pits.

    As I said, 2 and 4 post hoists are cheaper.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 20:23:02
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for
    easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the Mazda dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings, bur
    neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to have a
    pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another* example of the ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to justify his own
    fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody clothes
    line in a back yard. If anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had to
    do here.

    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other than
    a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more* difficult
    not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually abandoned by
    everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.

    This bloke couldn't talk any more utter shit if he *wanted* to.


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 20:45:42
    On 21/07/2026 7:09 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 6:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I did >>>>>>>>>>>> among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the
    gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s
    Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits are >>>>>>> drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want
    something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of >>>>>>> well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover
    on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on a
    truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your >>>>
    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do you
    work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the wheel
    so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a disadvantage. >>>>> Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    These days, likely since the cost of installation of pits is vastly more expensive than a 2 post hoist.

    AFAIK, the only places to use pits these days are railway workshops
    because, well hoisting a locomotive or train would be an interesting
    exercise.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 20:47:29


    On 21/7/2026 8:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for
    easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the Mazda
    dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings, bur
    neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to have a
    pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another* example of the

    Hate to have to tell you Darren but a *pit* is exactly that, a
    *subfloor* arrangement, something that modern factory type premises do
    not cater for. A good example. At the college we needed a chassis dyno
    and a wheel aligner pit. Both needed a *custom designed* floor to
    accommodate them and the cost was ridiculous.

    ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to justify his own fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody clothes
    line in a back yard. If anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had to
    do here.

    Concrete thickness and reinforcing, no big deal. The pits at the truck dealership needed specific drainage because the workshop was at the
    level of the docks in Hobart. Very costly but very necessary. Nowadays a
    4 post truck hoist would be used but they weren't available when that
    workshop was built. >
    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other than
    a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more* difficult
    not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually abandoned by
    everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.

    Cost Darren, cost.>
    This bloke couldn't talk any more utter shit if he *wanted* to.
    I leave the shit talking to you Darren and, I must say, you are good at
    it - you spray it *everywhere*.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 20:57:56
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation software >>>>>>>>> that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship with >>>>>>>> them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't >>>>>>> you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin off my
    nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow
    about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I
    know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 20:59:31


    On 21/7/2026 8:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 7:09 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 6:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I >>>>>>>>>>>>> did among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the >>>>>>>>>>> gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s >>>>>>>>>> Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits >>>>>>>> are drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want >>>>>>>> something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of >>>>>>>> well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover >>>>>> on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on
    a truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your >>>>>
    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do
    you work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the
    wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a
    disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    These days, likely since the cost of installation of pits is vastly
    more expensive than a 2 post hoist.

    AFAIK, the only places to use pits these days are railway workshops
    because, well hoisting a locomotive or train would be an interesting exercise.

    And some truck workshops.

    BTW, *locomotives* and train *carriages* are hoisted all the time in
    railway workshops except they do that with a gantry crane to remove the
    body from the bogies. I guess they are just used to lifting heavy stuff
    in the railways. But, hey, the hoist is even being used there;

    https://i.redd.it/2wspvoj1zexa1.jpg

    Howzat, a hoist and a pit together! Who would have thought...

    I guess it just depends on what your goals are, eh?

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 21:30:13


    On 21/7/2026 8:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation
    software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship >>>>>>>>> with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't >>>>>>>> you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin off my >>>>>>>> nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow >>>>>>>> about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I >>>>>>>> know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

    Since you were seeking it out, one can but assume you were looking for
    an appropriate meeting venue for the FLCJC. Congrats on your success!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 21, 2026 23:53:43
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for
    easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the Mazda
    dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings, bur
    neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to have a
    pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another* example of the ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to justify his own fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody clothes
    line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    If anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had to
    do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other than
    a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more* difficult
    not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually abandoned by
    everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.


    That I do agree with. Except for very specific applications pits are
    simply, well, the pits and I haven't seen one in use for decades. I had
    one at one of my old places but I threw a bunch of junk engine blocks
    and other engine parts in the hole, pushed leftover sand from a project
    into it and concreted it over.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 08:04:45
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no more
    a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody
    clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    ÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had
    to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it, and you're clearly unaware of the footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends. Suffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.

    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be specific
    which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to your average
    concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without knowing if the
    concrete meets the specific requirements.



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 09:21:28
    On 21/07/2026 4:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 3:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Only 4 mins, Tommy?

    Your finger must be sore, mashing the reload button all day waiting for ANYTHING to reply to...

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 10:49:39
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody
    clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had
    to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    and you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder you
    could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to use a
    scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    Suffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.


    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't
    comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out and
    pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially easy.

    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be specific
    which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to your average concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without knowing if the
    concrete meets the specific requirements.


    Duh... you don't say. You're so incredible fucking stupid.

    Again...

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 10:55:57
    On 21/07/2026 6:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 7:09 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 6:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I >>>>>>>>>>>>> did among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the >>>>>>>>>>> gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s >>>>>>>>>> Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits >>>>>>>> are drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want >>>>>>>> something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency of >>>>>>>> well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover >>>>>> on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on
    a truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4.
    They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any
    advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have your >>>>>
    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then
    back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do
    you work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to
    move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a
    hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the
    wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a
    disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even
    less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same
    time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the Canberra
    reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the underside of
    cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    These days, likely since the cost of installation of pits is vastly
    more expensive than a 2 post hoist.

    AFAIK, the only places to use pits these days are railway workshops
    because, well hoisting a locomotive or train would be an interesting exercise.

    Just proves your ignorance on yet another subject. No surprises there.

    https://www.macton.com/car-hoists-and-hoist-systems https://freightquip.com/product/train-lifting-jacks-hoists/
    etc...

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 13:12:23


    On 22/7/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive use
    these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - and
    removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins for
    easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the
    Mazda dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings,
    bur neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to have
    a pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another* example of
    the ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to justify his
    own fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no more
    a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody
    clothes line in a back yard.

    A whole lot more than a hole in the ground. That is the most simplistic viewpoint of pits that I have ever seen and displays a complete lack of understanding of the concept of structural integrity. What about the structural integrity of the side walls when a heavy vehicle is placed
    over the pit? Darren hasn't a clue.>
    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Indeed they can. In fact, at the Hobart truck dealership, the pits would
    fill with water *when the tide came in* if the pumps weren't turned on.
    Right at sea level you see.

    Also, improper drainage and ground water can make a pit fill up.>
    ÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had
    to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other
    than a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more*

    A four post ramp type, yes. Just drive on and lift. 2 post, not so much.

    difficult not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually
    abandoned by everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.

    Not in the truck industry they haven't. That's where I used pits the most.>
    That I do agree with. Except for very specific applications pits are
    simply, well, the pits and I haven't seen one in use for decades. I had
    one at one of my old places but I threw a bunch of junk engine blocks
    and other engine parts in the hole, pushed leftover sand from a project
    into it and concreted it over.



    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 13:13:41


    On 22/7/2026 8:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody
    clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    groundwater Darren, ever heard of it?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had
    to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it, and you're clearly unaware of the footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends. Suffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.

    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be specific
    which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to your average concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without knowing if the
    concrete meets the specific requirements.




    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 11:24:23
    On 21/07/2026 6:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation
    software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship >>>>>>>>> with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't >>>>>>>> you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin off my >>>>>>>> nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow >>>>>>>> about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I >>>>>>>> know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you
    massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

    You and no mates having coffee...

    https://imgur.com/a/kZBVdDP

    --
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    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 13:24:33


    On 22/7/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    Yes, he really is this stupid!>

    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it
    to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I
    had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a
    2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    ÿand you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder you
    could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to use a
    scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    ÿSuffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.


    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out and
    pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially easy.

    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be specific
    which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to your average
    concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without knowing if the
    concrete meets the specific requirements.


    Duh... you don't say. You're so incredible fucking stupid.

    Again...

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."





    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 13:26:44
    Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it
    to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I
    had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a
    2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially
    easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    ÿand you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder you
    could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to use a
    scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    ÿSuffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.


    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out and
    pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially easy.

    IMO that's not 'easy' only necessary


    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be
    specific which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to
    your average concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without
    knowing if the concrete meets the specific requirements.


    Duh... you don't say. You're so incredible fucking stupid.

    Again...

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."






    --
    Linux Mint 22.3
    "Your biggest enemy is yourself with the sheer volume
    of lies and bullshit you post"- clocky re noddy


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 14:02:34


    On 22/7/2026 1:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it
    to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I >>>>> had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a
    2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially
    easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    ÿand you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder you
    could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to use a
    scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    ÿSuffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.


    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't
    comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out and
    pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially easy.

    IMO that's not 'easy' only necessary

    No, Clocky is right, it is easy. My brother used to do that sort of
    thing. Just need to link in the reinforcing to the existing slab.>

    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be
    specific which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to
    your average concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without
    knowing if the concrete meets the specific requirements.


    Duh... you don't say. You're so incredible fucking stupid.

    Again...

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."







    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 12:31:03
    On 22/07/2026 11:26 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it
    to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I >>>>> had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a
    2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially
    easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    ÿand you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder you
    could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to use a
    scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    ÿSuffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.


    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't
    comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out and
    pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially easy.

    IMO that's not 'easy' only necessary



    It is dead easy.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 15:26:42
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation
    software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship >>>>>>>>>> with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why
    don't you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin >>>>>>>>> off my nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you >>>>>>>>> to crow about, if you think you never said anything like that. >>>>>>>>> (but I know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about? >>>>>>>>>
    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you >>>>>>> massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

    You and no mates having coffee...

    https://imgur.com/a/kZBVdDP


    hahahahaha

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3
    "Your biggest enemy is yourself with the sheer volume
    of lies and bullshit you post"- clocky re noddy


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 15:34:54
    Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 1:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no >>>>>> more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water. >>>>
    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for
    it to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely
    what I had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support
    a 2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is
    trivially easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    ÿand you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder
    you could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to
    use a scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    ÿSuffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa.


    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't
    comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out
    and pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially
    easy.

    IMO that's not 'easy' only necessary

    No, Clocky is right, it is easy. My brother used to do that sort of
    thing. Just need to link in the reinforcing to the existing slab.>

    correct me if I'm wrong.. but you would have to jack hammer out the
    existing concrete, cut out the reinforcing bars, dig out the soil, put
    in new reinforcing pinned into the existing concrete, and pour new
    concrete, and have the necessary equipment to do all that. might be
    'trivially easy' for you, not for me.


    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be
    specific which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to
    your average concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without
    knowing if the concrete meets the specific requirements.


    Duh... you don't say. You're so incredible fucking stupid.

    Again...

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy."









    --
    Linux Mint 22.3
    "Your biggest enemy is yourself with the sheer volume
    of lies and bullshit you post"- clocky re noddy


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 18:08:23


    On 22/7/2026 3:34 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 1:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no >>>>>>> more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water. >>>>>
    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?


    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for >>>>>>> it to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely >>>>>>> what I had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support >>>>>> a 2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is
    trivially easy.

    There is nothing nonsensical about it,

    Yes there is.

    ÿand you're clearly unaware of the
    footing requirements the average hoist manufacturer recommends.

    Clearly you once again fail to comprehend basic English. No wonder
    you could never complete an apprenticeship and can't work out how to
    use a scan tool for basic diagnostics you profoundly stupid "man".

    ÿSuffice
    to say, the 100mm thick 25mpa concrete you'd find in the average
    workshop is *not* suitable which is why my slab is 150mm thick 32mpa. >>>>>

    Yeah so you can Google but are you really so stupid that you can't
    comprehend what I actually said?

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy." >>>>
    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out
    and pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially
    easy.

    IMO that's not 'easy' only necessary

    No, Clocky is right, it is easy. My brother used to do that sort of
    thing. Just need to link in the reinforcing to the existing slab.>

    correct me if I'm wrong.. but you would have to jack hammer out the
    existing concrete, cut out the reinforcing bars, dig out the soil, put
    in new reinforcing pinned into the existing concrete, and pour new
    concrete, and have the necessary equipment to do all that. might be 'trivially easy' for you, not for me.

    You omitted getting the engineer to OK the job, during and at the end. Shouldn't be doing that kind of work without the skills, equipment & experience. My brother had all the above and lots of demand for his
    services. >

    It's not difficult, and I never said it was. But it has to be
    specific which was the point. You can't just bolt a hoist down to
    your average concrete slab and expect it to be reliable without
    knowing if the concrete meets the specific requirements.


    Duh... you don't say. You're so incredible fucking stupid.

    Again...

    "Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy." >>>>









    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 20:43:57
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto glass :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 20:48:45
    On 22/07/2026 1:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:

    *Retrofitting*. You cut out some sections of concrete, dig it out and
    pour in suitable concrete to the correct depth. It's trivially easy.

    IMO that's not 'easy' only necessary

    It is neither trivial, nor easy, and anyone who installs hoists for a
    living or is familiar with concrete floors will happily tell you that it
    is *far* from the gold standard when it comes to doing the job. The
    *best* method is to pour the correct concrete when the building is being built, which is precisely why I did it that way.

    This moron has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, and it's a
    good job that he installs mudflaps and snorkels for a living and *not*
    hoists.


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 22, 2026 21:25:31


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas adjacent
    to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a mere 1 to 3
    metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100 to 300 metres
    below ground. When you build, you take the water table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local proximity to
    the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can drop to 30 to 60 meters
    below ground level. So, if it were left to its own devices, the water
    table in all of Bangkok would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the
    record, Bangkok city building foundations are designed around the water
    table. They can do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is
    a piece of piss


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 19:52:16
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water. >>>>
    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the building
    foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto
    glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas adjacent
    to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a mere 1 to 3
    metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100 to 300 metres
    below ground. When you build, you take the water table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local proximity to
    the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can drop to 30 to 60 meters
    below ground level. So, if it were left to its own devices, the water
    table in all of Bangkok would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the
    record, Bangkok city building foundations are designed around the water table. They can do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is
    a piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 19:54:21
    On 22/07/2026 1:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive
    use these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed -
    and removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist wins >>>>> for easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the
    Mazda dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built buildings,
    bur neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to have
    a pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another* example of
    the ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to justify his
    own fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a bloody
    clothes line in a back yard.

    A whole lot more than a hole in the ground. That is the most simplistic viewpoint of pits that I have ever seen and displays a complete lack of understanding of the concept of structural integrity. What about the structural integrity of the side walls when a heavy vehicle is placed
    over the pit? Darren hasn't a clue.>
    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Indeed they can. In fact, at the Hobart truck dealership, the pits would fill with water *when the tide came in* if the pumps weren't turned on. Right at sea level you see.

    Also, improper drainage and ground water can make a pit fill up.>
    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it to
    meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I had
    to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a 2
    post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy.

    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other
    than a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more*

    A four post ramp type, yes. Just drive on and lift. 2 post, not so much.

    difficult not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually
    abandoned by everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.

    Not in the truck industry they haven't. That's where I used pits the most.>
    That I do agree with. Except for very specific applications pits are
    simply, well, the pits and I haven't seen one in use for decades. I
    had one at one of my old places but I threw a bunch of junk engine
    blocks and other engine parts in the hole, pushed leftover sand from a
    project into it and concreted it over.



    Of course you are avoiding one of the major problem with pits - fumes
    tend to accumulate in them, sometimes to a dangerous degree.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:02:41
    On 21/07/2026 8:59 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 8:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 7:09 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 6:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the >>>>>>>>>>>> gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s >>>>>>>>>>> Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits >>>>>>>>> are drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want >>>>>>>>> something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency >>>>>>>>> of well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover >>>>>>> on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on >>>>>> a truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4. >>>>>> They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any >>>>>>> advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have >>>>>>> your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then >>>>>> back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do
    you work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to >>>>>>> move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a >>>>>>> hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the
    wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a
    disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even >>>>>>> less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same >>>>>> time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the
    Canberra reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the
    underside of cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    These days, likely since the cost of installation of pits is vastly
    more expensive than a 2 post hoist.

    AFAIK, the only places to use pits these days are railway workshops
    because, well hoisting a locomotive or train would be an interesting
    exercise.

    And some truck workshops.

    BTW, *locomotives* and train *carriages* are hoisted all the time in
    railway workshops except they do that with a gantry crane to remove the
    body from the bogies. I guess they are just used to lifting heavy stuff
    in the railways. But, hey, the hoist is even being used there;

    Thanks for stating the bleedin' obvious, a few problems there, who wants
    to work under 50 tonnes of locomotive dangling from a crane (not to
    mention OH&S), some work requires the train to be on it's wheels, and
    safety inspections are done with the train in it's working condition for obvious reasons.

    https://i.redd.it/2wspvoj1zexa1.jpg

    Howzat, a hoist and a pit together! Who would have thought...

    A crane ain't a hoist.

    I guess it just depends on what your goals are, eh?

    Your seems to be an own one.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:05:05
    On 22/07/2026 12:55 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 7:09 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 6:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 21/7/2026 4:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 1:01 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 18/7/2026 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/7/2026 9:45 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:19 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 5:41 pm, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 17/7/2026 3:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 16/7/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 7:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 2:23 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

    Clocky claims to be such as skilled mechanic that he can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change a clutch in 26 minutes, and made bulk money fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECUs.ÿ But, for some reason, that's not a boast.

    No they are not boasts, those are just ordinary things I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did among many other things.

    What vehicle did you change a clutch on in 26 minutes? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>



    Excellent question:-)
    It may be possible to change a clutch in 26mins with the >>>>>>>>>>>> gearbox already removed:-)

    It is possible to change a clutch on a late 60s-early 70s >>>>>>>>>>> Holden in 25 minutes or less. Did it on a pit rather than a >>>>>>>>>>> hoist. Do I need to explain the advantages of that.


    I'd like to know. why would it make a difference?

    Raising and lowering hoists kills time - it's dead time. Pits >>>>>>>>> are drive on and get to work. With a pit, you work under, want >>>>>>>>> something up top, up the steps and go get it and return. Having >>>>>>>>> worked with both hoists and pits, I quite like the efficiency >>>>>>>>> of well designed pits.


    Used them a lot in the truck industry and in mining.

    Possibly because mining trucks are a bit heavy for a hoist.>

    Very much so as are many trucks, almost no one puts a prime mover >>>>>>> on a hoist.

    No, pits make more sense for a lot of the work that needs doing on >>>>>> a truck.

    But, like I said, I used my first 4 post truck hoist in 1973 or 4. >>>>>> They aren't new, they are more prolific now than they were.

    It may take time to position a car on a hoist but after that any >>>>>>> advantage is lost, if you are working under a hoist you can have >>>>>>> your

    Nope, if you need to do anything up top, down it has to come. Then >>>>>> back up when you need to be under again. Been there done all that.

    so climbing out of a pit is quicker than lowering a hoist? How do
    you work on brakes with a pit?

    tool trolley right next to you plus you have a lot more room to >>>>>>> move, if you need a hand 2 or more people can easily fit under a >>>>>>> hoist but it would be very cramped in a pit.

    Nope, decent pits don't have that issue.

    The pit obviously cannot be wider than the distance between the
    wheel so standing side by side would be cramped.

    The only "advantage" of a pit is that you can install one in a
    workshop that has a low roof, apart from that they are a
    disadvantage.
    Also 4 post hoists are drive on same as a pit making a pit even >>>>>>> less of an "advantage".

    Except when you need to work on top (under the bonnet) at the same >>>>>> time as underneath the car (or truck).

    The last time that I saw a pit in use was in the 80s at the
    Canberra reggo testing station, it was only used to inspect the
    underside of cars, no work was done there.


    Apart from heavy vehicle workshops they are relatively rare.

    These days, likely since the cost of installation of pits is vastly
    more expensive than a 2 post hoist.

    AFAIK, the only places to use pits these days are railway workshops
    because, well hoisting a locomotive or train would be an interesting
    exercise.

    Just proves your ignorance on yet another subject. No surprises there.

    https://www.macton.com/car-hoists-and-hoist-systems https://freightquip.com/product/train-lifting-jacks-hoists/
    etc...

    Klokko the clown trips over his big clown shoes and face plants. The
    audience looks away bored, they have seen it all too many times before.
    No applause just pity.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:14:31


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water. >>>>>
    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the
    building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto
    glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas
    adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a mere 1
    to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100 to 300
    metres below ground. When you build, you take the water table into
    account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local proximity
    to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping for domestic
    and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can drop to 30 to 60
    meters below ground level. So, if it were left to its own devices, the
    water table in all of Bangkok would not be lower than ~2 metres. For
    the record, Bangkok city building foundations are designed around the
    water table. They can do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop
    floor is a piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:15:36


    On 26/7/2026 7:54 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive
    use these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - >>>>>> and removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist
    wins for easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the
    Mazda dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built
    buildings, bur neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to
    have a pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another*
    example of the ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to
    justify his own fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    A whole lot more than a hole in the ground. That is the most
    simplistic viewpoint of pits that I have ever seen and displays a
    complete lack of understanding of the concept of structural integrity.
    What about the structural integrity of the side walls when a heavy
    vehicle is placed over the pit? Darren hasn't a clue.>
    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Indeed they can. In fact, at the Hobart truck dealership, the pits
    would fill with water *when the tide came in* if the pumps weren't
    turned on. Right at sea level you see.

    Also, improper drainage and ground water can make a pit fill up.>
    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it
    to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I
    had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a
    2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially easy. >>>
    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other
    than a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more*

    A four post ramp type, yes. Just drive on and lift. 2 post, not so much.

    difficult not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually
    abandoned by everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.

    Not in the truck industry they haven't. That's where I used pits the
    most.>
    That I do agree with. Except for very specific applications pits are
    simply, well, the pits and I haven't seen one in use for decades. I
    had one at one of my old places but I threw a bunch of junk engine
    blocks and other engine parts in the hole, pushed leftover sand from
    a project into it and concreted it over.



    Of course you are avoiding one of the major problem with pits - fumes
    tend to accumulate in them, sometimes to a dangerous degree.

    Ventilation Keith, ever heard of it?

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:19:14
    On 22/07/2026 1:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation
    software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship >>>>>>>>>> with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't >>>>>>>>> you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin off my >>>>>>>>> nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow >>>>>>>>> about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I >>>>>>>>> know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you >>>>>>> massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

    You and no mates having coffee...

    https://imgur.com/a/kZBVdDP

    Here's one of you having coffee

    https://tinyurl.com/yuyy6z7w

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:20:48
    On 21/07/2026 9:30 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 21/7/2026 8:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation
    software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship >>>>>>>>>> with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about
    guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why don't >>>>>>>>> you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin off my >>>>>>>>> nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you to crow >>>>>>>>> about, if you think you never said anything like that. (but I >>>>>>>>> know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about?

    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you >>>>>>> massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

    Since you were seeking it out, one can but assume you were looking for
    an appropriate meeting venue for the FLCJC. Congrats on your success!

    Obsessives like you shouldn't make assumptions, they only embarrass themselves.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 20:21:41
    On 22/07/2026 3:26 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:46 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/07/2026 12:59 am, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/07/2026 6:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/07/2026 3:04 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/07/2026 7:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:


    You and facts? Where are the facts about that aviation >>>>>>>>>>>> software that I'm supposed to have written?

    No facts then felix you seem to have a strange relationship >>>>>>>>>>> with them.

    well you said it so you should know. I think it was about >>>>>>>>>> guidance software. but instead of just throwing shit, why >>>>>>>>>> don't you try to think what it is that you said. but no skin >>>>>>>>>> off my nose, if you can't recall. just one less thing for you >>>>>>>>>> to crow about, if you think you never said anything like that. >>>>>>>>>> (but I know you did). or maybe it was a lie you forgot about? >>>>>>>>>>
    If you know I did, find the quote or apologise.

    Unbelieveable. Where's your apology for posting fake quotes you >>>>>>>> massive, steaming pile of dishonesty?

    Since I didn't no apology is needed.

    so where's the cites for the quotes then?

    Go look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S13mP_pfEc

    Where felix and alvey meet for coffee

    https://imgur.com/a/7n1jWNz

    You and no mates having coffee...

    https://imgur.com/a/kZBVdDP


    hahahahaha

    Maniacal laughter from felix.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 23:55:43
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with
    water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the
    building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto
    glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas
    adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a mere
    1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100 to 300
    metres below ground. When you build, you take the water table into
    account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local proximity
    to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping for
    domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can drop to
    30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it were left to its own
    devices, the water table in all of Bangkok would not be lower than ~2
    metres. For the record, Bangkok city building foundations are
    designed around the water table. They can do it with an entire city,
    a pit in a workshop floor is a piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose that
    that means everybody.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 26, 2026 23:58:51
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with >>>>>>>> water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the
    building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto
    glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you. >>>> There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas
    adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a mere
    1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100 to 300
    metres below ground. When you build, you take the water table into
    account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local proximity
    to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping for
    domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can drop to
    30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it were left to its own
    devices, the water table in all of Bangkok would not be lower than ~2 >>>> metres. For the record, Bangkok city building foundations are
    designed around the water table. They can do it with an entire city,
    a pit in a workshop floor is a piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose that
    that means everybody.


    Define intelligence!

    ____
    Xeno



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 12:54:05
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with >>>>>>>> water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the
    building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto
    glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you. >>>> There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas
    adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a
    mere 1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100
    to 300 metres below ground. When you build, you take the water
    table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local
    proximity to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping
    for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can
    drop to 30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it were left to
    its own devices, the water table in all of Bangkok would not be
    lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city building
    foundations are designed around the water table. They can do it
    with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose that
    that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 13:04:52


    On 27/7/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with >>>>>>>>> water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the
    building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by auto >>>>>> glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten you. >>>>> There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the
    surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas
    adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a
    mere 1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100
    to 300 metres below ground. When you build, you take the water
    table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally
    located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local
    proximity to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy pumping >>>>> for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater table can
    drop to 30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it were left to
    its own devices, the water table in all of Bangkok would not be
    lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city building
    foundations are designed around the water table. They can do it
    with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose that
    that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the room.
    I have news for him and it's all bad.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 14:49:06
    On 27/07/2026 1:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 27/7/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with >>>>>>>>>> water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the
    building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by
    auto glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten >>>>>> you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below the >>>>>> surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or areas
    adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level or a
    mere 1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly located 100 >>>>>> to 300 metres below ground. When you build, you take the water
    table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is generally >>>>>> located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on local
    proximity to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy .
    pumping for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater
    table can drop to 30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it
    were left to its own devices, the water table in all of Bangkok
    would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city
    building foundations are designed around the water table. They can >>>>>> do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a piece of >>>>>> piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose
    that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the room.
    I have news for him and it's all bad.

    I don't talk to people like I'm teaching a bunch of kids like you do.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 15:31:32
    On 27-Jul-26 2:49 PM, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/07/2026 1:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 27/7/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill >>>>>>>>>>> with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the >>>>>>>> building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by >>>>>>>> auto glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten >>>>>>> you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below
    the surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or
    areas adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level >>>>>>> or a mere 1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly
    located 100 to 300 metres below ground. When you build, you take >>>>>>> the water table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is
    generally located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on
    local proximity to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy . >>>>>>> pumping for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater
    table can drop to 30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it >>>>>>> were left to its own devices, the water table in all of Bangkok >>>>>>> would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city >>>>>>> building foundations are designed around the water table. They
    can do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a
    piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose
    that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the
    room. I have news for him and it's all bad.

    I don't talk to people like I'm teaching a bunch of kids like you do.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    xenokryp is a Fraud!!. End of story!.


    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 16:45:42


    On 27/7/2026 2:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/07/2026 1:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 27/7/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill >>>>>>>>>>> with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the >>>>>>>> building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by >>>>>>>> auto glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me enlighten >>>>>>> you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below
    the surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or
    areas adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level >>>>>>> or a mere 1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly
    located 100 to 300 metres below ground. When you build, you take >>>>>>> the water table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is
    generally located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on
    local proximity to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy . >>>>>>> pumping for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater
    table can drop to 30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it >>>>>>> were left to its own devices, the water table in all of Bangkok >>>>>>> would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city >>>>>>> building foundations are designed around the water table. They
    can do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a
    piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose
    that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the
    room. I have news for him and it's all bad.

    I don't talk to people like I'm teaching a bunch of kids like you do.

    Oh yes you do! You are the master of it.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 18:22:50
    On 27/07/2026 4:45 pm, Xeno wrote:


    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose
    that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the
    room. I have news for him and it's all bad.

    I don't talk to people like I'm teaching a bunch of kids like you do.

    Oh yes you do! You are the master of it.


    Tomas, you've talked down to people since you appeared as Krypsis, then
    when your lies unraveled (you know; walled up iron, working in the
    immigration dept and so on, and so on) you used your move to Coffs
    Harbour as a chance to re-invent yourself as Xeno-lith, and later, as
    xeno. From memory, it took about 3-4 weeks for your lies to become
    undone, thus providing even more ammunition to throw at you.

    You tried everything, from stealing others work (London smog, and DNA
    (sprung you good and proper there, didnt i, shit-fer-brains :-D), which
    is commonly called plagiarism, to your stupidity applied to geo-fenced pigeons, cricket bat anatomy, railway accidents, coastal currents which
    you bleated you learnt in Geography class in BOTH primary and secondary school, animal husbandry (AG) which was your best subject at school (and
    it shows) yet didnt know what a calf feeder was, didnt know the
    difference between a dam and a puddle, didnt know about tractor
    hydraulics...

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep making an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats, golf is a winter sport,
    radar phones, cockpit voice recorders... There's just so much ABSOLUTE
    SHIT i cant list 1/10th of it here.

    You think youre the smart one here? A hint for you, shit-fer-brains:
    The smart ones know when to keep their mouth shut. You fail. You cant
    help yourself in the quest to look smart. You just look like you want
    people to think your educated. Form 10, wasnt it?

    Just look at the last couple of weeks..., You *have* to tell us that
    rabbit needs to go in the slow cooker. Really? Who here didn't know
    that? And now your spouting about Victorians voted for the Labor Party?
    How, in fucks sake, do you think they won the last 3 elections? Giving
    every punter a fiver?

    No, You are fucked in the head big time.

    Keith whoops your arse. With ease.







    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 19:13:42
    lindsay wrote:
    On 27/07/2026 4:45 pm, Xeno wrote:


    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose >>>>>> that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the
    room. I have news for him and it's all bad.

    I don't talk to people like I'm teaching a bunch of kids like you do.

    Oh yes you do! You are the master of it.


    Tomas, you've talked down to people since you appeared as Krypsis,
    then when your lies unraveled (you know; walled up iron, working in
    the immigration dept and so on, and so on) you used your move to Coffs Harbour as a chance to re-invent yourself as Xeno-lith, and later, as
    xeno.ÿ From memory, it took about 3-4 weeks for your lies to become
    undone, thus providing even more ammunition to throw at you.

    You tried everything, from stealing others work (London smog, and DNA (sprung you good and proper there, didnt i, shit-fer-brains :-D),
    which is commonly called plagiarism, to your stupidity applied to
    geo-fenced pigeons, cricket bat anatomy, railway accidents, coastal
    currents which you bleated you learnt in Geography class in BOTH
    primary and secondary school, animal husbandry (AG) which was your
    best subject at school (and it shows) yet didnt know what a calf
    feeder was, didnt know the difference between a dam and a puddle,
    didnt know about tractor hydraulics...

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep making
    an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats,

    what's this about disappearing cats?

    golf is a winter sport, radar phones, cockpit voice recorders...
    There's just so much ABSOLUTE SHIT i cant list 1/10th of it here.

    You think youre the smart one here? A hint for you, shit-fer-brains:
    The smart ones know when to keep their mouth shut. You fail. You cant
    help yourself in the quest to look smart. You just look like you want
    people to think your educated. Form 10, wasnt it?

    Just look at the last couple of weeks..., You *have* to tell us that
    rabbit needs to go in the slow cooker. Really? Who here didn't know
    that? And now your spouting about Victorians voted for the Labor
    Party? How, in fucks sake, do you think they won the last 3 elections? Giving every punter a fiver?

    No, You are fucked in the head big time.

    Keith whoops your arse. With ease.








    --
    Linux Mint 22.3


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 19:48:05


    On 27/7/2026 7:13 pm, Axel wrote:

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep making
    an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats,

    what's this about disappearing cats?

    Must be referring to *catalytic converters*. Apparently they get sawn
    off and sold to scrap dealers for the precious metals they contain, like palladium, platinum and rhodium, more valuable than gold these days.
    It's a big deal overseas but it's coming soon to a suburb near you.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-16/catalytic-converter-thefts-australia-rare-metal-value/102224790

    You think youre the smart one here? A hint for you, shit-fer-brains:
    The smart ones know when to keep their mouth shut. You fail. You cant
    help yourself in the quest to look smart. You just look like you want
    people to think your educated. Form 10, wasnt it?

    Form 10 completion was the jumping off point, yes, followed by
    successful completion of an apprenticeship. Funny how being able to
    complete an apprenticeship gets up some people's noses.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 20:08:58
    On 27/07/2026 4:45 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 27/7/2026 2:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/07/2026 1:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 27/7/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/07/2026 8:14 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:52 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 9:25 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 6:04 am, Noddy wrote:

    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill >>>>>>>>>>>> with water.

    Fill with water from where? :)

    Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of the water table?

    What, 5 foot below the workshop floor? How the fuck would the >>>>>>>>> building foundations survive, you imbecilic cunt?

    Hahahahaha :)

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. No wonder you were stumped by >>>>>>>>> auto glass :)

    Do you even know what the water table is Darren. Let me
    enlighten you.
    There is no typical water table depth and it can be just below >>>>>>>> the surface to hundreds of metres deep. In swampy ground, or
    areas adjacent to rivers, the water table can be at ground level >>>>>>>> or a mere 1 to 3 metres deep. In dry regions it's commonly
    located 100 to 300 metres below ground. When you build, you take >>>>>>>> the water table into account.
    Take a city like Bangkok for example. The water table is
    generally located between 1.5 and 2.0 metres deep depending on >>>>>>>> local proximity to the Chao Phraya River. Due to historical heavy . >>>>>>>> pumping for domestic and industrial use, the deep groundwater >>>>>>>> table can drop to 30 to 60 meters below ground level. So, if it >>>>>>>> were left to its own devices, the water table in all of Bangkok >>>>>>>> would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city >>>>>>>> building foundations are designed around the water table. They >>>>>>>> can do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a >>>>>>>> piece of piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose
    that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the
    room. I have news for him and it's all bad.

    I don't talk to people like I'm teaching a bunch of kids like you do.

    Oh yes you do! You are the master of it.

    The old "No you" pathetic.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 20:12:28
    On 27/07/2026 1:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    would not be lower than ~2 metres. For the record, Bangkok city
    building foundations are designed around the water table. They can >>>>>> do it with an entire city, a pit in a workshop floor is a piece of >>>>>> piss


    Was your degree in the bleedin' obvious?

    It helps when dealing with some people.

    Since you think that you are the most intelligent here, I suppose
    that that means everybody.

    that remark seems more appropriate for yourself

    It does indeed. Like Trump, he thinks he's the smartest man in the room.
    I have news for him and it's all bad.

    Well, it certainly aint you, Mr "Kangaroos are not protected". You're
    nothing but an arrogant dumb liar, plagiarist and hypocrite of mammoth proportions. Nothing to be proud of, shit-fer-brains.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 20:17:00
    On 27/07/2026 7:13 pm, Axel wrote:
    lindsay wrote:

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep making
    an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats,

    what's this about disappearing cats?


    Felix, your memory so bad you cant remember the mindless shit he dribbled?

    Here's the groups resident expert on everything, who actually knows fuck all.... his ballistics expertise is coming back.. ? The "man" who
    thinks kangaroos are not protected.

    Tomas: "If you used a 12 gauge, you'd have *disappeared* the whole cat."

    (me) if you shoot a cat with a 12g @ say 15 m, it will die a very quick
    death, but you'd be lucky to cut it in half, rather than have it
    "disappear". @30m it'll probably run away. depending what ammo your
    using....

    (i think it's about here you told Tomas the same thing...)

    (So Tomas moves the goalposts.. he's good at that...)

    Tomas: "The 22-250 is the most ideal for cat sized vermin shooting."

    (me) Absolute bullshit from the wannabe know-it-all. Under 200m, the
    Ruger .204 is the perfect calibre for "cat sized vermin". And the
    venerable 45 grain .223 is the perfect all-rounder out to max 250m. Ask
    me how i know. ? Over 250m, i'd reach for a .308.

    The guy is mentally faulty. I wouldnt let him anywhere near a gun i own.
    He's obviously way out of his depth. As every other subject he tries.

    And this from 8 months ago... "Some people in this newsgroup think they
    can learn all about this shit from tinkering and Google. I have news for
    them and it's all bad." Guess what, Tomas Clasener? No. You.

    Tomas Clasener must hate bad news as more arrived today.. :-D Hey
    Tomas: here's an imaginary Chux Superwipe: It wont get all that egg of
    your face, but it will make room for more to land :-D

    Bwahahahahahahahahahha..




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  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 20:21:16
    On 27/07/2026 7:48 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 27/7/2026 7:13 pm, Axel wrote:

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep making
    an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats,

    what's this about disappearing cats?

    Must be referring to *catalytic converters*.

    No, as you well know, I'm referring to you and the mindless shit you
    spewed regarding killing feral cats with a shotgun...

    Looks you're moving the goalposts yet again, shit-fer-brains...

    No one was talking about catalytic converters, and you know it.

    Just full of mindless shit, running away from your pathetic lying past
    as usual.

    Have you no shame, Tomas?

    And you purport to be intelligent? Bwahahahahahaha



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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 21:14:00
    On 26/07/2026 8:15 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 26/7/2026 7:54 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/07/2026 1:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    On 22/7/2026 1:53 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/07/2026 4:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    You will find new premises aren't custom designed for automotive >>>>>>> use these days so 2 and 4 post hoists are more easily installed - >>>>>>> and removed. Even in new truck repair places, the 4 post hoist
    wins for easy install.

    Both the Toyota dealer that I will be taking the RAV to, and the
    Mazda dealer that I used for 10 years are in custom built
    buildings, bur neither have pits.

    The idea that you have to "custom design" a premises in order to
    have a pit is a complete and utter nonsense, and yet *another*
    example of the ridiculous lengths this moron will go to in order to >>>>> justify his own fanciful claims.

    I pit is nothing other than a hole in the ground, and you need no
    more a "custom design" to install one than you do to install a
    bloody clothes line in a back yard.

    A whole lot more than a hole in the ground. That is the most
    simplistic viewpoint of pits that I have ever seen and displays a
    complete lack of understanding of the concept of structural
    integrity. What about the structural integrity of the side walls when
    a heavy vehicle is placed over the pit? Darren hasn't a clue.>
    That's nonsense. Improperly designed pits can easily fill with water.

    Indeed they can. In fact, at the Hobart truck dealership, the pits
    would fill with water *when the tide came in* if the pumps weren't
    turned on. Right at sea level you see.

    Also, improper drainage and ground water can make a pit fill up.>
    ÿÿIf anything, a 2 post hoist is *far* more of a
    custom design as the concrete needs to be specifically laid for it
    to meed the minimum loading requirements, which is precisely what I >>>>> had to do here.


    That's nonsense too. Retrofitting a suitable foundation to support a
    2 post hoist into concrete floor that is not suitable is trivially
    easy.

    There is one reason and one reason only why pits are not used for
    vehicle maintenance purposes these days or any time in the last 30
    years, and that is that compared to a hoist a pit is nothing other
    than a useless pain in the arse that makes the average job *more*

    A four post ramp type, yes. Just drive on and lift. 2 post, not so much. >>>
    difficult not easier, and the fact that they have been virtually
    abandoned by everyone in favour of hoists is a testament to that.

    Not in the truck industry they haven't. That's where I used pits the
    most.>
    That I do agree with. Except for very specific applications pits are
    simply, well, the pits and I haven't seen one in use for decades. I
    had one at one of my old places but I threw a bunch of junk engine
    blocks and other engine parts in the hole, pushed leftover sand from
    a project into it and concreted it over.



    Of course you are avoiding one of the major problem with pits - fumes
    tend to accumulate in them, sometimes to a dangerous degree.

    Ventilation Keith, ever heard of it?

    Mr superiority complex strikes again, talking down as usual. It isn't
    always that easy, not a few people have died that way.

    Then, of course, a hoist can be set at whatever height is comfortable
    for the person working there, kind of difficult with a pit.

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  • From Axel@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 11:21:15
    lindsay wrote:
    On 27/07/2026 7:13 pm, Axel wrote:
    lindsay wrote:

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep
    making an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats,

    what's this about disappearing cats?


    Felix, your memory so bad you cant remember the mindless shit he
    dribbled?

    yes :)


    Here's the groups resident expert on everything, who actually knows
    fuck all.... his ballistics expertise is coming back.. ? The "man"
    who thinks kangaroos are not protected.

    Tomas: "If you used a 12 gauge, you'd have *disappeared* the whole cat."

    (me) if you shoot a cat with a 12g @ say 15 m, it will die a very
    quick death, but you'd be lucky to cut it in half, rather than have it "disappear". @30m it'll probably run away. depending what ammo your using....

    (i think it's about here you told Tomas the same thing...)

    (So Tomas moves the goalposts.. he's good at that...)

    Tomas: "The 22-250 is the most ideal for cat sized vermin shooting."

    (me) Absolute bullshit from the wannabe know-it-all.ÿ Under 200m, the
    Ruger .204 is the perfect calibre for "cat sized vermin". And the
    venerable 45 grain .223 is the perfect all-rounder out to max 250m.
    Ask me how i know. ?ÿ Over 250m, i'd reach for a .308.

    The guy is mentally faulty. I wouldnt let him anywhere near a gun i
    own. He's obviously way out of his depth. As every other subject he
    tries.

    And this from 8 months ago... "Some people in this newsgroup think
    they can learn all about this shit from tinkering and Google. I have
    news for them and it's all bad." Guess what, Tomas Clasener? No. You.

    Tomas Clasener must hate bad news as more arrived today.. :-Dÿ Hey
    Tomas: here's an imaginary Chux Superwipe: It wont get all that egg of
    your face, but it will make room for more to land :-D

    Bwahahahahahahahahahha..



    Ah yes I remember now that you've jogged my memory, and said what you
    referred to


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    Linux Mint 22.3


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  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 19:45:16
    On 28/07/2026 11:21 am, Axel wrote:
    lindsay wrote:
    On 27/07/2026 7:13 pm, Axel wrote:
    lindsay wrote:

    So much other mindless SHIT you have uttered to try and look
    knowledgeable on any subject mentioned here, and you just keep
    making an absolute fool of yourself. Disappearing cats,

    what's this about disappearing cats?


    Felix, your memory so bad you cant remember the mindless shit he
    dribbled?

    yes :)


    Here's the groups resident expert on everything, who actually knows
    fuck all.... his ballistics expertise is coming back.. ? The "man"
    who thinks kangaroos are not protected.

    Tomas: "If you used a 12 gauge, you'd have *disappeared* the whole cat."

    (me) if you shoot a cat with a 12g @ say 15 m, it will die a very
    quick death, but you'd be lucky to cut it in half, rather than have it
    "disappear". @30m it'll probably run away. depending what ammo your
    using....

    (i think it's about here you told Tomas the same thing...)

    (So Tomas moves the goalposts.. he's good at that...)

    Tomas: "The 22-250 is the most ideal for cat sized vermin shooting."

    (me) Absolute bullshit from the wannabe know-it-all.ÿ Under 200m, the
    Ruger .204 is the perfect calibre for "cat sized vermin". And the
    venerable 45 grain .223 is the perfect all-rounder out to max 250m.
    Ask me how i know. ?ÿ Over 250m, i'd reach for a .308.

    The guy is mentally faulty. I wouldnt let him anywhere near a gun i
    own. He's obviously way out of his depth. As every other subject he
    tries.

    And this from 8 months ago... "Some people in this newsgroup think
    they can learn all about this shit from tinkering and Google. I have
    news for them and it's all bad." Guess what, Tomas Clasener? No. You.

    Tomas Clasener must hate bad news as more arrived today.. :-Dÿ Hey
    Tomas: here's an imaginary Chux Superwipe: It wont get all that egg of
    your face, but it will make room for more to land :-D

    Bwahahahahahahahahahha..



    Ah yes I remember now that you've jogged my memory, and said what you referred to

    And I trust you've noted that Shit-fer-brains has now tried to move the goalposts/alter the discussion in a pathetic change of subject with talk
    about catalytic converters... No-one I know shots car parts. It's what
    the poor sad deadshit does as a last grasp of the straw, as he drowns.
    He does it all the time when he's caught. Sandringham line, anyone?

    "If you used a 12 gauge, you'd have *disappeared* the whole cat",
    (really? hahahahaha) morphs to ""The 22-250 is the most ideal for cat
    sized vermin shooting.", is BULLSHIT, and it's all wildly WRONG.

    Poor old Tomas Clasener fucks up, yet again... Mental deficiency right
    there.


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