• Why am I getting almost hard crashes after logging into my lightdm into

    From Ant@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, April 28, 2026 18:43:50
    Subject: Why am I getting almost hard crashes after logging into my lightdm into desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.)?

    Logging into my desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.) crashes right away after lightdm. https://zimage.com/~ant/temp/dmesgAndlsPCI.txt shows nouveau with errors. I can't even switch to local text mode locally to do force reboot (have to use the computer's physical reset button). Remote SSH2 reboot gets stuck even though I get remotely disconnected.

    I'm currently using my onboard Intel GPU instead of my NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT video card. Why is Debian still trying to use my NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT video card even though it's not connected to my HD monitor (VGA connection)? Is there a way to tell my Debian not to use the card without physically removing it (can't due to my disabilities)? https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my detailed secondary PC's setup spefications. I didn't have this problems before upgrading to Trixie v13 from Bookworm v12. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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  • From LucLan@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 29, 2026 04:55:31
    Subject: Re: Why am I getting almost hard crashes after logging into my lightdm into desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.)?

    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    Logging into my desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.) crashes right away after lightdm. https://zimage.com/~ant/temp/dmesgAndlsPCI.txt shows nouveau with errors. I can't even switch to local text mode locally to do force reboot (have to use the computer's physical reset button). Remote SSH2 reboot gets stuck even though I get remotely disconnected.

    I'm currently using my onboard Intel GPU instead of my NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT video card. Why is Debian still trying to use my NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT video card even though it's not connected to my HD monitor (VGA connection)? Is there a way to tell my Debian not to use the card without physically removing it (can't due to my disabilities)? https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my detailed secondary PC's setup spefications. I didn't have this problems before upgrading to Trixie v13 from Bookworm v12. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    Hi Ant.
    Please check the nvidia drivers, something is fishy there (the newest
    drivers does support few old cards).
    Hope you resolve the problem soon.
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  • From Anssi Saari@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 29, 2026 10:17:45
    Subject: Re: Why am I getting almost hard crashes after logging into my lightdm into desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.)?

    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

    I'm currently using my onboard Intel GPU instead of my NVIDIA GeForce
    8800 GT video card. Why is Debian still trying to use my NVIDIA
    GeForce 8800 GT video card even though it's not connected to my HD
    monitor (VGA connection)?

    I think the video card driver needs to load before cable status can be determined.

    Is there a way to tell my Debian not to use the card without
    physically removing it (can't due to my disabilities)?

    Adding module_blacklist=nouveau to the kernel command line should
    disable the Nouveau driver.


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  • From Ant@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, April 29, 2026 23:17:40
    Subject: Re: Why am I getting almost hard crashes after logging into my lightdm into desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.)?

    Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

    I'm currently using my onboard Intel GPU instead of my NVIDIA GeForce
    8800 GT video card. Why is Debian still trying to use my NVIDIA
    GeForce 8800 GT video card even though it's not connected to my HD
    monitor (VGA connection)?

    I think the video card driver needs to load before cable status can be determined.

    Is there a way to tell my Debian not to use the card without
    physically removing it (can't due to my disabilities)?

    Adding module_blacklist=nouveau to the kernel command line should
    disable the Nouveau driver.

    I just tried that from my https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=842407#p842407 thread. It didn't work unless I am doing it wrong. :(
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  • From LucLan@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, April 30, 2026 06:21:45
    Subject: Re: Why am I getting almost hard crashes after logging into my lightdm into desktop (KDE, xfce, Gnome, etc.)?

    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

    I'm currently using my onboard Intel GPU instead of my NVIDIA GeForce
    8800 GT video card. Why is Debian still trying to use my NVIDIA
    GeForce 8800 GT video card even though it's not connected to my HD
    monitor (VGA connection)?

    I think the video card driver needs to load before cable status can be
    determined.

    Is there a way to tell my Debian not to use the card without
    physically removing it (can't due to my disabilities)?

    Adding module_blacklist=nouveau to the kernel command line should
    disable the Nouveau driver.

    I just tried that from my https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=842407#p842407 thread. It didn't work unless I am doing it wrong. :(

    My optinion is to reinstall older drivers for NVidia (this worked for
    me).

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