On Thu, 6/25/2026 3:04 PM, John Durnell wrote:

Around Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:45:24 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

I will repeat my question or quest again:

s there a Usenet newsgroup that dicuss about
pills or "pills"?

I also want to know!

I tried a couple of the drug groups, and there seems to be zero traffic.

alt.drugs.sedatives.general

You can try Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin_as_a_medication_and_supplement

"Melatonin... is a substituted tryptamine... and a derivative of serotonin"

"Synthetic melatonin receptor agonists used in medicine like
ramelteon, tasimelteon, agomelatine, and piromelatine (still in clinical trials)
are analogues of melatonin."

[Not to be used with Warfarin, but really nothing is safe around Warfarin]

"Melatonin is a safer alternative than clonazepam in the treatment of
REM sleep behavior disorder" [REM is rapid eye movement, a phase of sleep]

I'm pretty sure there *was* a medical group on USENET at one time, because people reported getting help in such a group. The help was likely better
than the advice you would get in the HVAC group. The "disposition" of
medical people today, is different than long ago, so even if you find
that group on some other server, there may not be anyone in the group.
A typical response from a modern doctor (more than one has done this) is
"What do you expect me to do???". My old family doctor had better table
manners than that -- if he didn't like the trajectory of a discussion,
he would give you a Life Saver and shoot you out the door.

And an LLM-AI should be able to search the 1200 essential medications
for a sedative which is not a bag of hammers. This is the list that
doctors prescribe from, most of the time. There is a high probability
that the pharmacy can acquire any of the 1200 within a couple days,
except in times of recognized shortage (even my BP meds were in
short supply once).

At least one USENETter commented casually that his doctor
had given him "a powerful new drug". Two days later, that
was the last we saw of him. Don't be one of those people!
[That would be an O.D. - you should never take a substance
like that without someone else around to recognize trouble.
Even if you didn't plan to abuse it, one dosing mistake
and you're dead meat.]

Zero of the doctors at my clinic, can prescribe opioids any more.
It's one of the easiest prescribing permissions to lose. You don't want anything that is addictive. On an average day, an addict will sit
down and pass the time of day with you in one of the clinic chairs.
But when they visit the doctor, the visit is always short and
out the door they go. That's because the doctor can't write
them a script - at the pharmacy, they check the doctors "number"
and it's listed on the computer whether he can write that kind
of script. Just for the record, the doctor always gives peachy
advice for pain "have you tried yoga". But an addict isn't there
entirely for the pain, more for the buzz.

A couple of our cities here, have a kind of state of emergency,
when it comes to street drugs. For a while there, the drug supply
was just straight fentanyl, people could dose on that and
not O.D. Now, fentanyl isn't always available, and at least
one of the substitutes, does not respond to naloxone. There are
so many calls for "help with an overdose", that there are
no ambulances available to go rescue someone with the naloxone.
The fire department, a pumper truck can carry three firemen
with basic medical training, and all have trays of things
to administer. Police have naloxone (in the trunk).

And finally, when they ran out of emergency services people to help,
a couple citizens now roam the street with Naloxone kits, they
visually spot someone who appears to have a little too much
sedative (nodding), and they hit them with the naloxone. So if you were thinking "hey, I bet the street drug people would have something",
be aware the drugs are graded by color, and the street
people can tell you which color to stay away from
(because it's cut with the wrong stuff). Where am I learning
all this stuff ? Local TV news stations!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan

"Tryptophan is present in most protein-based foods or dietary proteins.
It is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, dried dates, milk, yogurt <===
, cottage cheese, red meat, eggs, fish, poultry, sesame,
legumes such as chickpeas and soybeans, almonds, sunflower seeds,
pumpkin seeds, hemp seeds, buckwheat, spirulina, and peanuts.

Contrary to the popular belief that cooked turkey contains an
abundance of tryptophan, the tryptophan content in turkey
is typical of poultry.
"

Now, normally I would tell you to "see a doctor", but the problem
with this particular question, is you MUST NOT display "drug seeking"
behavior. If you're having trouble sleeping, say "I am having
trouble sleeping". Don't say "hit me with some Xanax", because
that will get you booted out the door. You must be very cagey
to ask for advice on over-the-counter sleep aids. I never word
any conversation with a doctor, in terms of telling him
what to write up in a script :-) I don't want that boot mark
on my bum. The doctor of course, will respond with "have
you tried warm milk". It's Whack-A-Mole on all sides.
Or I suppose "have you tried yoga", that cures everything.

Try to time any sleep aid, with your "normal" sleep cycle.
When you're having trouble sleeping, even that is hard
to figure out.

Paul

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