On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
*Surely* you've seen the film?!
If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
used/Ex-Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since
gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
*Surely* you've seen the film?!
If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex- Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
*Surely* you've seen the film?!
If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since
gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
On 6/15/2026 6:32 AM, David B. wrote:
On 14/06/2026 11:12, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/14/2026 2:16 PM, David B. wrote:Thank you.
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
What happened AFTER that?!!!
You can find the full movie in YouTube!? :)
Reminder:
it's a boring music video (year 1968?) using classical music. Target
audience might be kids. Prepare to hit the fast-forward button! ?
On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex- Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
*Surely* you've seen the film?!
If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)
I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!
Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).
The attention span of the young today smdh! lol.
On 6/13/26 09:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
Dave did not act mad.
He just did what he needed to do.
And about a hour later he started disconnecting circuit boards,
in effect performing a prefrontal lobotomy.
On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 14:37:49 -0700, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 6/13/26 09:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Dave did not act mad.
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
He just did what he needed to do.
And about a hour later he started disconnecting circuit boards,
in effect performing a prefrontal lobotomy.
It seems to me that it would have been much easier and much quicker to
simply kill the power to the computer.
On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 14:37:49 -0700, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 6/13/26 09:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
Dave did not act mad.
He just did what he needed to do.
And about a hour later he started disconnecting circuit boards,
in effect performing a prefrontal lobotomy.
It seems to me that it would have been much easier and much quicker to
simply kill the power to the computer.
On Sun, 6/14/2026 6:41 PM, David B. wrote:
On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex-
On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What happened AFTER that?!!!
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
*Surely* you've seen the film?!
If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.
You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.
Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.
I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since gone. >>> Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!
Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)
I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!
Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).
When you don't use things like your Panasonic Video player,
the transports jam up. The very first tape you put in it,
and punch play, should be a blank tape or a tape you can
afford to lose. It might not be working well enough, to
be spending money on conversion devices. The heat of keeping
them plugged in, that power supply that continues working
(even though the transport is not powered), that seems
to keep the materials dry in there.
To capture video, you might have used kit like this.
But it depends on what software is needed to work the
USB end of this, whether it will work on your particular
Apple machine.
# Premium Composite RCA Scart RGB S-Video To USB Video Frame Grabber For PC
https://www.ebay.com/itm/312451193099
My other machine, has a PCI Express TV tuner card, and it has both
analog and digital capture options. I have a VCR, but
the quality of the signal that comes from VCRs, does not
encourage spending time and effort getting that USB thing
working.
It's just easier to plug your Panasonic Video player,
into an old analog colour TV set you kept, and admire the
signal that way. If the picture seems a bit fuzzy, you
haven't spent any money on getting a digital fuzzy picture
on your Apple iMac. The idea is, to view the content one
time, without fussing too much over the process. As the
fussing cannot pay off (the Garbage-In-Garbage-Out problem
of video as a hobby).
Paul
Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
suspended animation.....
On 15 Jun 2026 at 13:38:37 BST, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an elderly widow who was my friend.
It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
On 6/14/2026 8:20 PM, Paul wrote:
Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
suspended animation.....
Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of patience.ÿ :)
On 2026-06-16 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of
patience.ÿ :)
It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi movie in history.
On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote:
The attention span of the young today smdh! lol.
This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN
without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big big
big one!!
What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring music video".
No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore.
On 6/16/2026 9:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of
patience.ÿ :)
It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi
movie in history.
Its pace is way way too slow. To the point of boring you out. Maybe I
could download the movie's digital copy and re-encode it to play in 2x
speed using some freeware. :)
Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an elderly widow who was my friend.
It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
Utterly missing the point...
On 6/16/2026 10:28 PM, Chris wrote:
Utterly missing the point...
I am NOT down-rating the movie. But it's really boring from my point of view. Many Oscar movies are boring anyway. :)
On 2026-06-15 17:35, croy wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 14:37:49 -0700, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 6/13/26 09:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
Dave did not act mad.
He just did what he needed to do.
And about a hour later he started disconnecting circuit boards,
in effect performing a prefrontal lobotomy.
It seems to me that it would have been much easier and much quicker to
simply kill the power to the computer.
A computer that was not designed to have power cut ever. An integral part of the ship design.
A procedure that was not described in the documentation.
And parts of the computer functions had to be kept running.
On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:
Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view >> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an >> elderly widow who was my friend.
It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?
I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
We're talking big screen luxury.
It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
a cleaning.
Paul
On Mon, 6/15/2026 3:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-15 17:35, croy wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 14:37:49 -0700, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 6/13/26 09:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
Dave did not act mad.
He just did what he needed to do.
And about a hour later he started disconnecting circuit boards,
in effect performing a prefrontal lobotomy.
It seems to me that it would have been much easier and much quicker to
simply kill the power to the computer.
A computer that was not designed to have power cut ever. An integral part of the ship design.
A procedure that was not described in the documentation.
And parts of the computer functions had to be kept running.
The design of the ship, is pure poetic license.
The thought that goes into designing space projects, gives some
idea "who is in control" and "how much trust we have in the hardware"
https://increment.com/software-architecture/in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-kernel-panic/
Even back in that day, they knew about what architectures
would be needed for reliable space flight. But then, you
would not have much of a movie, if the thing was lashed
down properly :-)
That's the same flaw the Forbin Project makes. The idea is
all wrong, after about the first five minutes of the movie.
But it is what it is.
Even without knowing what kind of AI that HAL9000 was,
it's still a non-deterministic design where you can't
add your hardware analysis to detect faults. If you were
putting a HAL9000 on a real space ship, it would be air gapped
and it definitely would not get to steer anything (directly).
It would be, in effect, a hand calculator... that you could
switch off. And the "real/procedural/dumb" 1+1 computers
would do the real work.
As an example of a "violation-of-principle", one of the
Musk ships has totally autonomous docking at the ISS. You're
not supposed to do that. But we'll find out some day. The hard way.
If NASA designed the thing, it would not do that. You would be
able to switch off the autonomy, grab the 3D controls and finish
the job manually. If you noticed it was going wrong. Any time there
are issues with thrusters as a ship approaches the ISS, it is blocked
from approaching the ISS any closer.
While you can have hand-wavey scifi doo dads, the real
world is boring... and hard work for somebody. And yes, it
has A/B buses, breakers and switches.
What's the thing you fear most in space flight ? It's
the same thing as onboard a naval vessel. It's a fire on board.
You have electricals ? Then you have breakers and switches
to shut that off. If HAL9000 had caught fire, then there
have to be protective devices to help subdue the fire. The
design of spaceships, is just like the design of submarines.
Bulkheads. Air-tight doors. Isolate the chamber with the problem.
I am NOT down-rating the movie. But it's really boring from my point of
view. Many Oscar movies are boring anyway. :)
Something is wrong with you :-P
I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
We're talking big screen luxury.
It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
a cleaning.
On 6/16/2026 10:11 PM, Chris wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring
music video".
No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore.
If you have seen the movie before, is it still called an attention span problem? :)
If something is wasting your time and you leave, is it attention span problem?
Feeling boring or repetitive has nothing to do with attention span.
Anyway, that movie's pace was too slow by modern standard.
However, I wouldn't recommend you watch it again as not all films are for
all people.
Telling a really good story, IMHO, requires slow and fast, room for (mis)interpretation and ambiguity, and multiple threads working in parallel and probably not in sync.Maybe I watched and memorized too many stories, far more than what you
It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi >movie in history.
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi >>movie in history.
I had the good fortune to see it when it first came out on a Cinerama
screen (BIG screen). An absolute mind-blower!
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote:
The attention span of the young today smdh! lol.
This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN
without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big
big big one!!
What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring music video".
No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore.
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 14:11:43 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/15/2026 8:31 PM, Chris wrote:
The attention span of the young today smdh! lol.
This actually is a big problem. How can you WATCH(HEAR) AND LEARN
without long attention span? It's a national security issue... a big
big big one!!
What exactly is the attention span problem? A curse?
It's the likes of you saying that watching a 2 hr long film is a "boring
music video".
No one has the desire or interest to do anything long-form anymore.
I remember reading a novel about the future, where the only stories people read were just one or two pages long.
On 2026-06-16, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so forth
Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view >>> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!
I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an >>> elderly widow who was my friend.
It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)
You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?
I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
We're talking big screen luxury.
It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
a cleaning.
Paul
is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require replacement.
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi
movie in history.
I had the good fortune to see it when it first came out on a Cinerama
screen (BIG screen). An absolute mind-blower!
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