• Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous desig

    From Graham J@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 09, 2026 08:09:24
    Subject: Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design

    Maria Sophia wrote:

    [snip]

    In summary, the mechanism for Aloha to maintain the VPN connection has drastically changed, where it takes more mouse movements now than before,
    but at least if you keep the focus on the browser at all times, the VPN no longer sadistically randomly drops right out from under your feet.

    Every ordinary user I know always works with apps like a browser
    full-screen, so losing the focus isn't a issue.

    They don't seem to have understood that Windows means having the option
    for more than one window open on a screen.

    What was it we had before Windows? MS-DOS ???


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    Graham J

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  • From ...winston@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 09, 2026 10:23:09
    Subject: Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Graham J wrote:

    Every ordinary user I know always works with apps like a browser full-
    screen, so losing the focus isn't a issue.

    They tend to regard any explanation of how they could run apps
    not-maximised as being "told off".

    They don't seem to have understood that Windows means having the
    option for more than one window open on a screen.

    Dual monitors have given way to triple monitors for many users.

    What was it we had before Windows?ÿ MS-DOS ???

    Borland Sidekick?

    Sidekick was a personal information manager, initially ran on DOS(later
    on Windows, OS2, Mac)

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 09, 2026 16:29:23
    Subject: Re: PSA: Windows Aloha browser system-wide IP leakage & dangerous design

    On Tue, 6/9/2026 3:19 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:

    It should be shocking to everyone, if I'm right that there isn't a single real Windows VPN browser review on the entire Internet, that isn't a shill.

    When it drops, Windows just sends everything out over
    your normal connection-instantly exposing your real IP mid-session.

    It's not even listed as a "Chromium" browser.

    https://github.com/nerdyslacker/desktop-web-browsers

    Aloha Browser WebKit,Blink Windows Fast, free, full-featured browser

    It would take quite a while to review that browser list,
    and start by weeding out the ones that are no longer
    in development.

    [Paul looks at his big-bucket-of-browsers, discovering
    the bucket is entirely empty.]

    I don't think I even "want" to review browsers.

    This would be like reviewing six different colors
    of Docker pants :-) "Yeah, it stole my identity"
    "Yeah, it has telemetry and reports every URL"
    "Yeah, is that DOM folder big or what?"
    That's hard work.

    Speaking of Scumbaggery, Tomshardware has switched to the Deceptron FutureInc Web Format.
    Oh, well. We were always told, control would only be taken away from Toms, if they
    weren't making enough money for FutureInc. By not having scroll bars where you expect them,
    and having scroll bars in places you don't need them, all your interface requirements
    are met... as an advertiser. I'm using my PgDn and PgUp keys, to navigate items,
    and that is a lot of fun. A lot. Of fun. I hope they don't like a lot of telemetry
    that notes "pressed PgDn key 1000 times in 4 seconds". I had to turn off SVG rendering
    on the browser I use for that, just to cut down on the sheer volume of crud on the page.

    Yes, the Internet is alive and well, but is an acquired taste.

    I had a Google AI summary, use a slop-page prepared by an AI, as
    one of its "authoritative sources". My day is complete. You can't
    get quality like this at the public library.

    Paul

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