• Shutdown

    From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 12:29:10
    I use a shortcut to the Window 11 Shutdown routine, to shut down the
    computer as it is quicker that right clicking to find it on in the Start
    menu.

    Recently when using the Shutdown routine the computer appears to
    shutdown but does not: screen goes blank and the computer will not
    respond to the keys, but the power button light is still lit. Holding
    the Power Button for several seconds completes the shutdown.

    Has MS modified the shutdown routine that is called when "Shutdown"

    Using the shortcut to the Shutdown routine has for years responded the
    same as if I right click on the Start button find the shutdown options,
    and then click Shutdown. Recently it occasionally done as described above.

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  • From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 12:51:09
    On 5/29/26 12:29 PM, knuttle wrote:
    I use a shortcut to the Window 11 Shutdown routine, to shut down the
    computer as it is quicker that right clicking to find it on in the Start menu.

    Recently when using the Shutdown routine the computer appears to
    shutdown but does not: screen goes blank and the computer will not
    respond to the keys, but the power button light is still lit. Holding
    the Power Button for several seconds completes the shutdown.

    Has MS modified the shutdown routine that is called when "Shutdown"

    Using the shortcut to the Shutdown routine has for years responded the
    same as if I right click on the Start button find the shutdown options,
    and then click Shutdown. Recently it occasionally done as described above.

    I do the same thing, kinda. I use Rainmeter. It allows you to put what looks like the
    old widgets in win95 or win7. I have a clock, HD volumes, and a shutdown/sleep/restart
    button trio. Still it's nothing more than what a shortcut would do and these are the 3
    commands that get used:

    SleepCmd=rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState Standby RestartCmd=shutdown.exe -r -t 0
    ShutdownCmd=shutdown.exe -s -t 0


    --
    Mint 22.3, Thunderbird 140.11.0esr, Firefox 151.0.1
    Alan K.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 18:12:11
    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    [...]

    I do the same thing, kinda. I use Rainmeter. It allows you to put
    what looks like the old widgets in win95 or win7. I have a clock, HD volumes, and a shutdown/sleep/restart button trio. Still it's
    nothing more than what a shortcut would do and these are the 3
    commands that get used:

    SleepCmd=rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState Standby

    FYI, on modern systems with 'Modern Standby' ("Standby (S0 Low Power
    Idle) Network Connected"), this command will do a Hibernate, not a
    Sleep.

    AFAIK, it's not possible to do a Sleep from a command in a shortcut on
    such a system. (I wish it was, because clicking a shortcut is easier
    than doing Start -> Power icon -> Sleep).

    RestartCmd=shutdown.exe -r -t 0
    ShutdownCmd=shutdown.exe -s -t 0

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 14:29:13
    On Fri, 5/29/2026 12:29 PM, knuttle wrote:
    I use a shortcut to the Window 11 Shutdown routine, to shut down the computer as it is quicker that right clicking to find it on in the Start menu.

    Recently when using the Shutdown routine the computer appears to shutdown but does not: screen goes blank and the computer will not respond to the keys, but the power button light is still lit.ÿ Holding the Power Button for several seconds completes the shutdown.

    Has MS modified the shutdown routine that is called when "Shutdown"

    Using the shortcut to the Shutdown routine has for years responded the same as if I right click on the Start button find the shutdown options, and then click Shutdown.ÿÿ Recently it occasionally done as described above.

    Perhaps you have added something recently, which is a bit
    too clever for the computer. They use Autoruns from Sysinternals here,
    for a look at what is kicking around on the PC.

    https://superuser.com/questions/1447752/windows-10-black-screen-on-shutdown-reboot

    The download is here.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns

    Debugging these, is about as much fun as debugging a "freeze in mid-session".
    A lot of explaining, not a lot of solutions. That is why the autoruns, or at least
    reversing some recent addition, comes to mind. I would be easy to blame your
    AV program... because quite often they are guilty of doing stuff.

    When you "tick" an Autoruns box for a program, the program can put itself back and
    so you end up "ticking" the program again to try and stop it. Just be aware that autoruns only works "well" on naive programs. If someone has loaded a Scheduled Task to make the thing a startup item, then it will keep getting to run.

    *******

    Summary: Try alt-F4 after giving the desktop surface the focus.
    See if shutdown works from there. This is unlikely to change anything,
    but it is relatively easy to try. Otherwise, there aren't a lot of options,
    and a Repair Install is unlikely to help (anyone who makes pests like this,
    will have protected their creation from Repair Install as a solution).

    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/shutdown-options-windows-11.jpg

    Paul

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  • From Jesper@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 20:34:59
    On 29/05/2026 20:12, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    [...]

    I do the same thing, kinda. I use Rainmeter. It allows you to put
    what looks like the old widgets in win95 or win7. I have a clock, HD
    volumes, and a shutdown/sleep/restart button trio. Still it's
    nothing more than what a shortcut would do and these are the 3
    commands that get used:

    SleepCmd=rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState Standby

    FYI, on modern systems with 'Modern Standby' ("Standby (S0 Low Power
    Idle) Network Connected"), this command will do a Hibernate, not a
    Sleep.

    AFAIK, it's not possible to do a Sleep from a command in a shortcut on such a system. (I wish it was, because clicking a shortcut is easier
    than doing Start -> Power icon -> Sleep).

    RestartCmd=shutdown.exe -r -t 0
    ShutdownCmd=shutdown.exe -s -t 0

    Windows key+X, then U, and another U. That's in an english Windows.
    Different letters with other languages.

    --
    Jesper

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  • From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 16:27:42
    On 5/29/26 2:12 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    [...]

    I do the same thing, kinda. I use Rainmeter. It allows you to put
    what looks like the old widgets in win95 or win7. I have a clock, HD
    volumes, and a shutdown/sleep/restart button trio. Still it's
    nothing more than what a shortcut would do and these are the 3
    commands that get used:

    SleepCmd=rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState Standby

    FYI, on modern systems with 'Modern Standby' ("Standby (S0 Low Power
    Idle) Network Connected"), this command will do a Hibernate, not a
    Sleep.

    AFAIK, it's not possible to do a Sleep from a command in a shortcut on such a system. (I wish it was, because clicking a shortcut is easier
    than doing Start -> Power icon -> Sleep).

    RestartCmd=shutdown.exe -r -t 0
    ShutdownCmd=shutdown.exe -s -t 0
    I never use the sleep thus I've never noticed it working or not. I also turned off the
    hibernation.
    I use it for reboot. The lid close does a sleep.

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    Mint 22.3, Thunderbird 140.11.0esr, Firefox 151.0.1
    Alan K.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Friday, May 29, 2026 18:20:08
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I use a shortcut to the Window 11 Shutdown routine, to shut down the computer ...

    And that shortcut runs WHAT command? If using the shutdown.exe program,
    it has many command-line parameters on how to shutdown. Run:

    shutdown /?

    to see the list of arguments that can be passed to the program. For
    example, maybe one of your open programs refuses or is deaf to the
    shutdown request sent to it by the OS, so it continues running, and
    interferes with shutdown. The /f argument, or /t with a timeout, will
    force exit of all pending processes. I'd probably go with /t to give
    processes a 30-second timeout for them to gracefully exit, but kill them
    if they won't respond.

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