I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red.
My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out
of 1.41 GB. Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something? Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one? Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years? Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
On 4/9/2026 11:08 AM, micky wrote:
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary
partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red.
My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out
of 1.41 GB.ÿÿ Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something?ÿ Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one?ÿÿ Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years?ÿÿÿ Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
You'll need to provide the partitions and the partitions order
Before doing anything, post pictures of your entire disk.
One using Disk Management
One using Powershell
One using Macrium
For Powershell, open in admin mode, then type or copy the following
command at the Powershell prompt, once done press the enter key to show
the results for each partition. Copy or take a screen shot of the results.
get-volume
Note: For Win11 using GPT partitioning:
- Macrium should show the following partitions.
ÿESP/EFI(System), MSR(unformatted), Windows o/s, Windows Recovery.
- Disk Management will not show the MSR
- Powershell get-volume will not show the MSR
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red.
My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out
of 1.41 GB. Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something? Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one? Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years? Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
Offf topic, but looking for a bigger HDD to image to, I found that I
have my email all the way back to 2011 and probably to the beginning.
I'm still missing a little bit of email that hadn't gotten backed up in
2017 in the few days before my crash, but the one email I wish I have, I
want for petty reasons. This should teach me a lesson that if I want to
be petty, I should be careful to backup my files.
On 4/9/2026 12:43 PM, ...w??? wrote:
On 4/9/2026 11:08 AM, micky wrote:
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary >>> partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red. >>> My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out >>> of 1.41 GB.?? Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something?? Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one??? Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years???? Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
You'll need to provide the partitions and the partitions order
Before doing anything, post pictures of your entire disk.
One using Disk Management
One using Powershell
One using Macrium
For Powershell, open in admin mode, then type or copy the following
command at the Powershell prompt, once done press the enter key to show
the results for each partition. Copy or take a screen shot of the results. >>
get-volume
Note: For Win11 using GPT partitioning:
- Macrium should show the following partitions.
?ESP/EFI(System), MSR(unformatted), Windows o/s, Windows Recovery.
- Disk Management will not show the MSR
- Powershell get-volume will not show the MSR
p.s. For analysis reasons, the 4th partition GB sizes in MB are
1.36 GB = 1392.64 MB used
1.41 GB = 1443.84 MB total size
Which indicates 51.2 MB free space (~3.5% remaining)
More reason to determine the purpose of the last partition with accurate >information. If that 4th partition is Windows Recovery then it has
insufficient space to be updated by the monthly(2nd Tues each month) or
the Preview update(4th Tues or out-of-band) that includes a Windows
Recovery update.
- i.e. to answer your question in the message subject
=> Yes, you should care!
The most likely reason why Macrium has shown in 'Red'
*Macrium shows a recovery partition more than 90% full in Red*
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red.
My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out
of 1.41 GB. Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something? Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one? Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years? Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
Offf topic, but looking for a bigger HDD to image to, I found that I
have my email all the way back to 2011 and probably to the beginning.
I'm still missing a little bit of email that hadn't gotten backed up in
2017 in the few days before my crash, but the one email I wish I have, I
want for petty reasons. This should teach me a lesson that if I want to
be petty, I should be careful to backup my files.
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Thu, 9 Apr 2026 22:14:42 -0700, ...w¤?ñ?¤ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/9/2026 12:43 PM, ...w¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
On 4/9/2026 11:08 AM, micky wrote:
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary >>>> partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red. >>>> My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out >>>> of 1.41 GB.ÿÿ Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and >>>> I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something?ÿ Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one?ÿÿ Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years?ÿÿÿ Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
You'll need to provide the partitions and the partitions order
Before doing anything, post pictures of your entire disk.
One using Disk Management
One using Powershell
One using Macrium
For Powershell, open in admin mode, then type or copy the following
command at the Powershell prompt, once done press the enter key to show >>> the results for each partition. Copy or take a screen shot of the results. >>>
get-volume
Note: For Win11 using GPT partitioning:
- Macrium should show the following partitions.
ÿESP/EFI(System), MSR(unformatted), Windows o/s, Windows Recovery.
- Disk Management will not show the MSR
- Powershell get-volume will not show the MSR
p.s. For analysis reasons, the 4th partition GB sizes in MB are
1.36 GB = 1392.64 MB used
1.41 GB = 1443.84 MB total size
Which indicates 51.2 MB free space (~3.5% remaining)
Thanks for posting again.
More reason to determine the purpose of the last partition with accurate
information. If that 4th partition is Windows Recovery then it has
Yes. It's labeled (by Minitool Partition Manager) as GPT (Recovery Partition.)
insufficient space to be updated by the monthly(2nd Tues each month) or
the Preview update(4th Tues or out-of-band) that includes a Windows
Recovery update.
- i.e. to answer your question in the message subject
=> Yes, you should care!
The most likely reason why Macrium has shown in 'Red'
*Macrium shows a recovery partition more than 90% full in Red*
So I could take, say, 0.15GB, or more, from the adjacent Data/Windows partition and give it to this partition, right?
Adding 0.15GBwould make it 1.36 used out of 1.56GB total, or 0.20 empty
The windows partition has 620GB that are empty. Maybe I should take
more, 2GB sounds better. Then I'll be good for years.
(I know how to do this, using Minitool Part. Manager, for example.)
I think this is the first time I've actually had a recovery partition.
Prior PCs were very second-hand or had windows reinstalled by amateurs
(like me).
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Thu, 9 Apr 2026 22:14:42 -0700, ...w¤?ñ?¤ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/9/2026 12:43 PM, ...w¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
On 4/9/2026 11:08 AM, micky wrote:
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary >>>> partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red. >>>> My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out >>>> of 1.41 GB.ÿÿ Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and >>>> I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something?ÿ Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one?ÿÿ Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years?ÿÿÿ Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
You'll need to provide the partitions and the partitions order
Before doing anything, post pictures of your entire disk.
One using Disk Management
One using Powershell
One using Macrium
For Powershell, open in admin mode, then type or copy the following
command at the Powershell prompt, once done press the enter key to show
the results for each partition. Copy or take a screen shot of the results. >>>
get-volume
Note: For Win11 using GPT partitioning:
- Macrium should show the following partitions.
ÿESP/EFI(System), MSR(unformatted), Windows o/s, Windows Recovery.
- Disk Management will not show the MSR
- Powershell get-volume will not show the MSR
p.s. For analysis reasons, the 4th partition GB sizes in MB are
1.36 GB = 1392.64 MB used
1.41 GB = 1443.84 MB total size
==>> Which indicates 51.2 MB free space (~3.5% remaining)
Thanks for posting again.
More reason to determine the purpose of the last partition with accurate
information. If that 4th partition is Windows Recovery then it has
Yes. It's labeled (by Minitool Partition Manager) as GPT (Recovery Partition.)
insufficient space to be updated by the monthly(2nd Tues each month) or
the Preview update(4th Tues or out-of-band) that includes a Windows
Recovery update.
- i.e. to answer your question in the message subject
=> Yes, you should care!
The most likely reason why Macrium has shown in 'Red'
*Macrium shows a recovery partition more than 90% full in Red*
So I could take, say, 0.15GB, or more, from the adjacent Data/Windows partition and give it to this partition, right?
Adding 0.15GBwould make it 1.36 used out of 1.56GB total, or 0.20 empty
The windows partition has 620GB that are empty. Maybe I should take
more, 2GB sounds better. Then I'll be good for years.
(I know how to do this, using Minitool Part. Manager, for example.)
I think this is the first time I've actually had a recovery partition.
Prior PCs were very second-hand or had windows reinstalled by amateurs
(like me).
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red.
My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out
of 1.41 GB. Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something? Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one? Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years? Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
On 09/04/2026 19:08, micky wrote:
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary
partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red.
My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out
of 1.41 GB.ÿÿ Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and
I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something?ÿ Shrink the C: and give the space to this
one?ÿÿ Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years?ÿÿÿ Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
It'll probably be your recovery partition. It has a minimal OS and some repair tools on it, that you can boot into it if your main Windows partition gets screwed up.
As to why it's filling more, well either Microsoft is upgrading the minimal OS (which is called WinRE), or it could be that Macrium is installing something there (mainly to make complete restoration of your whole Windows partition easier) and it is also will also be upgrading from time to time.
reagentc /infoWindows Recovery Environment (Windows RE) and system reset configuration Information:
On 4/10/2026 3:34 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Thu, 9 Apr 2026 22:14:42 -0700, ...w???
<winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/9/2026 12:43 PM, ...w??? wrote:
On 4/9/2026 11:08 AM, micky wrote:
I just noticed that, using Macrium Reflect, that it shows my 4th primary >>>>> partition, un-labeled (it says (none), is almost full and marked in red. >>>>> My C: partition has lots of space, but for this one it's 1.36GB used out >>>>> of 1.41 GB.?? Of course I have no direct control over what is used, and >>>>> I don't know why the used space is growing.
Do I need to do something?? Shrink the C: and give the space to this >>>>> one??? Or will it grow so slowly that I won't run out of space for
years???? Why the heck is it getting more full?
Windows 11, Dell Latitude 5510 with 32 gigs of ram
You'll need to provide the partitions and the partitions order
Before doing anything, post pictures of your entire disk.
One using Disk Management
One using Powershell
One using Macrium
For Powershell, open in admin mode, then type or copy the following
command at the Powershell prompt, once done press the enter key to show >>>> the results for each partition. Copy or take a screen shot of the results. >>>>
get-volume
Note: For Win11 using GPT partitioning:
- Macrium should show the following partitions.
?ESP/EFI(System), MSR(unformatted), Windows o/s, Windows Recovery.
- Disk Management will not show the MSR
- Powershell get-volume will not show the MSR
p.s. For analysis reasons, the 4th partition GB sizes in MB are
1.36 GB = 1392.64 MB used
1.41 GB = 1443.84 MB total size
==>> Which indicates 51.2 MB free space (~3.5% remaining)
Thanks for posting again.
More reason to determine the purpose of the last partition with accurate >>> information. If that 4th partition is Windows Recovery then it has
Yes. It's labeled (by Minitool Partition Manager) as GPT (Recovery
Partition.)
insufficient space to be updated by the monthly(2nd Tues each month) or
the Preview update(4th Tues or out-of-band) that includes a Windows
Recovery update.
- i.e. to answer your question in the message subject
=> Yes, you should care!
The most likely reason why Macrium has shown in 'Red'
*Macrium shows a recovery partition more than 90% full in Red*
So I could take, say, 0.15GB, or more, from the adjacent Data/Windows
partition and give it to this partition, right?
Adding 0.15GBwould make it 1.36 used out of 1.56GB total, or 0.20 empty
The windows partition has 620GB that are empty. Maybe I should take
more, 2GB sounds better. Then I'll be good for years.
(I know how to do this, using Minitool Part. Manager, for example.)
I think this is the first time I've actually had a recovery partition.
Prior PCs were very second-hand or had windows reinstalled by amateurs
(like me).
Post pictures as requested.
You've had a recovery partition for as long as you've had/used Windows
11 and most likely also for Windows 10.
Those pictures are important.
1. for validation of the partition number of the Recovery partition
2. for validation of the partition number of the Windows partition
3. for the disk number (most likely '0' on a single disk device)
4. to determine the route to increase the recovery partition size to 2 GB.
Powershell
PS C:\Users\mmm> get-volume
Remaining Size
C Dell-2025-Laptop NTFS Fixed Healthy OK 615.69 GB 952.34 GB
D LITTLE-SD FAT32 Removable Healthy OK 28.31 GB 28.96 GB
NTFS Fixed Healthy OK 53.98 MB 1.41 GB
Macrium Reflect Free
1 NO NAME (none) Primary Fat32 (LBA) 73.7MB used out of 100MB
2 (none) Primary Unformatted 16MB used out of 16MB
(but it's not marked in red even though it's full.
3 Dell-2025-Laptop (C:) Primary NTFS 332.59 GB used out of 952.34GB
4 (none) Primary NTFS 1.36 used out of 1.41GB (and marked in red)
plus another line for a little removeable SD card
Windows Disk Managerment
(Disk 0 Parition 1) Simple Basic Healthy (EFI system partition)
100MB 100MB 100% free Macrium says 74% used!
(Disk 0 Partition 4) Simple Basic Healthy (Recovery Partition)
1.41GB used, 1.41GB Free Sapce 100% free -- That's not right. Dell-2025-Laptop (C:) Simple Basic Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Basic Data Partition) 952.34 GB 617.72GB 65% Free
Little-SD, not important, right?
Do you think I have to worry about Minitool Parition Wizard damaging anything? I've liked how it works, but I could change to another.
On Sun, 4/12/2026 2:42 PM, micky wrote:
Powershell
PS C:\Users\mmm> get-volume
Remaining Size
C Dell-2025-Laptop NTFS Fixed Healthy OK 615.69 GB 952.34 GB
D LITTLE-SD FAT32 Removable Healthy OK 28.31 GB 28.96 GB
NTFS Fixed Healthy OK 53.98 MB 1.41 GB
Macrium Reflect Free
1 NO NAME (none) Primary Fat32 (LBA) 73.7MB used out of 100MB
2 (none) Primary Unformatted 16MB used out of 16MB
(but it's not marked in red even though it's full.
3 Dell-2025-Laptop (C:) Primary NTFS 332.59 GB used out of 952.34GB
4 (none) Primary NTFS 1.36 used out of 1.41GB (and marked in red)
plus another line for a little removeable SD card
Windows Disk Managerment
(Disk 0 Parition 1) Simple Basic Healthy (EFI system partition)
100MB 100MB 100% free Macrium says 74% used!
(Disk 0 Partition 4) Simple Basic Healthy (Recovery Partition)
1.41GB used, 1.41GB Free Sapce 100% free -- That's not right.
Dell-2025-Laptop (C:) Simple Basic Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump,
Basic Data Partition) 952.34 GB 617.72GB 65% Free
Little-SD, not important, right?
Do you think I have to worry about Minitool Parition Wizard damaging
anything? I've liked how it works, but I could change to another.
This video shows Partition Wizard doing a Move/Resize (slide to the right). >In this looping video, they "recommend doing a backup first".
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Mg0J5AEUAo
I recommend backups, any time you are using software you do not
trust
(certain operations of Paragon Partition Manager 14 Free make me nervous). >Paragon sometimes "backs out" of operations that should have worked,
other times, it takes its sweet time to mark an operation as "complete".
Just the graphical presentation is intended to shake your confidence
in their product. Only a user, who has used the Move/Resize a number
of times, begins to make notes at this level, about how the product
works or kinda-works.
Some Partition Managers can (for no reason), renumber the partitions (Grrr...),
and this can lead to a failure for things which happened to use
the partition number and not some other kind of information (GUID/BLKID)
for tracking.
As long as you are "skilled at fixing everything" in Windows,
what do you have to worry about, he said ?
Partition Managers require as much "calibration" as the
backup utilities like Macrium do. While other people can tell
you a thing is "<cough> safe", for some things, I recommend
a backup method that works, if you haven't calibrated
a backup method you (now) trust. For example, it would
not be unusual, for a Macrium restore to not boot, and
that happens when you do "drag and drop" partition positioning
and avoid "whole disk recovery" which works. The Macrium
Rescue CD "Boot Repair", will cause "at least" one of the
Windows OSes on a disk drive to boot. And then using
bootbcd, you can add back the other partitions.
bcdboot H:\Windows # Add Windows 10 back into the boot menu,
# after a Macrium "Boot Repair" only recovers C: .
# Windows 10 is on my H: partition.
When you "assign" a letter to the ESP (EFI System Partition
otherwise known as "system" in Disk Management), you can
do this from a Win11 installer DVD and its Command Prompt
bcdboot C:\Windows /s K: # Paul used "diskpart.exe" to assign K: to the GPT ESP partition.
# You would use this, if the BCD (a registry-type file) was trashed
# and you are building one from scratch. Normally the software
# knows where "system" is, but when there is no BCD, it might not know.
I'm just as clumsy at this stuff as anyone else. The
difference is, I spend *hours* on the issue, until
I fix it. And that's how you learn stuff, the hard way.
I happen to use Linux GParted for my Recovery Partition
resize and move (after Paragon was pissing me off). I try
not to do resize and move in one shot, preferring to do
some of these things as separate operations.
There can be efficiency issues with some of the partition managers
(for example, some will use a "dd" approach for moving stuff, others
can work at the file level to achieve a result).
A general philosophy though, is the designers usually try to use
the "least dangerous" method, if they're unsure about
something, or have had bad results reported from the
field repeatedly on a topic. The Gparted person was
so nervous (about getting out past the tips of his skis),
he actually rewrote the application from scratch once,
to "purge" all the risky stuff :-) It takes class to do that.
The thing is, *you* care about the results, so *you*
will take the precautions needed :-) Out here, all
we can be is "too bad so sad" when something bad happens.
Now you know why I make backups (one of the drives
here has *nine* safety backups, from a busy period
of time where I was doing "that nervous stuff").
Other times, I've got none of those. I did a safety backup
before my 25H2 Upgrade recently, and restored three times
until I was happy with the activities going on. If I detect
an install attempt is "messing around", in goes the
restore to pave over it and we try again.
Paul
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 16:44:03 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
I recommend backups, any time you are using software you do not
trust
You're talking about an image of the Data partition, right? Not a clone
of it.
But what can I do about the Recovery partition? Or maybe it's imaged
also at the same time when I use Macrium Reflect Free? I have all 4 partitions checked, so I guess that is backed up every time I run
Macrium, right?
PowershellNormal = its not formatted, i.e. ignore that its not red.
PS C:\Users\mmm> get-volume
Remaining Size
C Dell-2025-Laptop NTFS Fixed Healthy OK 615.69 GB 952.34 GB
D LITTLE-SD FAT32 Removable Healthy OK 28.31 GB 28.96 GB
NTFS Fixed Healthy OK 53.98 MB 1.41 GB
Macrium Reflect Free
1 NO NAME (none) Primary Fat32 (LBA) 73.7MB used out of 100MB
2 (none) Primary Unformatted 16MB used out of 16MB
(but it's not marked in red even though it's full.
3 Dell-2025-Laptop (C:) Primary NTFS 332.59 GB used out of 952.34GBYes, as reported earlier.
4 (none) Primary NTFS 1.36 used out of 1.41GB (and marked in red)
plus another line for a little removeable SD cardNot pertinent to your issue
Windows Disk ManagermentNormal, as expected
(Disk 0 Parition 1) Simple Basic Healthy (EFI system partition)
100MB 100MB 100% free Macrium says 74% used!
(Disk 0 Partition 4) Simple Basic Healthy (Recovery Partition)It's right. Disk Management doesn't calc free space for this(Windows
1.41GB used, 1.41GB Free Sapce 100% free -- That's not right.
Dell-2025-Laptop (C:) Simple Basic Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Basic Data Partition) 952.34 GB 617.72GB 65% FreeGood, consistent with get-volume and Macrium
Little-SD, not important, right?Yes, not important to your issue
Do you think I have to worry about Minitool Parition Wizard damaging anything? I've liked how it works, but I could change to another.
p.s. For analysis reasons, the 4th partition GB sizes in MB are
1.36 GB = 1392.64 MB used
1.41 GB = 1443.84 MB total size
==>> Which indicates 51.2 MB free space (~3.5% remaining)
So I could take, say, 0.15GB, or more, from the adjacent Data/Windows
partition and give it to this partition, right?
The windows partition has 620GB that are empty. Maybe I should take
more, 2GB sounds better. Then I'll be good for years.
Does anyone care whether their WinRE.wim works ?
I would care, if it had a good track record.
It would be interesting, to see what the Microsoft
field statistics are, for successful repair via the Recovery Partition.
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 13 Apr 2026 00:58:30 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
Does anyone care whether their WinRE.wim works ?
I would care, if it had a good track record.
It would be interesting, to see what the Microsoft
field statistics are, for successful repair via the Recovery Partition.
IIUC the recovery partition will put the box back to the way it was when
it was sold. But if you have an image, you can put it back to the way
it was when you last imaged it. Isn't that a lot better? So yeah,
the recovery partition seems only of value to those who have no images.
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