? Microsoft has finally come to its sensesI saw an article about some of those and more changes, but I wonder about the "listen to
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans
to implement everything that has been requested for many years in
Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:03:25 -0400, mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:What amazes me more than anything is with all the things that MS takes out, there seems to
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
I got the taskbar to be more than one row by using Explorer Patcher, but
I'd rather it was built-in. a) The 2024H2 update required uninstalilng
EP first (although the 2025H2 did not). b) after every MS update I get a message in the bottom right that it's downloading labels to go with
something that was in the MS update. It says some features won't work
until the labels are all downloade, and one time or more it suggested
that only some of them were being provided (although maybe that meant at first). Despite all this, I haven't seen anything not work with EP.
Why they took out multiple lines in the first place, once they went to
the trouble of writing it, I can't imainge.
What else is planned to be fixed??
On 21/03/2026 18:03, MummyChunk wrote:
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
Are we sure it's not a premature April Fool?
On Sat, 3/21/2026 3:00 PM, John Hall wrote:to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows
On 21/03/2026 18:03, MummyChunk wrote:
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
content/uploads/2024/03/charlie-brown-lucy-football.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w= 1008&h=693&dpr=1.5
What else is planned to be fixed??
Are we sure it's not a premature April Fool?
I think this is a leg pull.
Here, Microsoft (in the blue dress), holds
a football for the users to kick (we're
that kid on the right).
https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-
It's not in evidence that Microsoft has any "senses" :-)
Paul
On 3/21/26 4:13 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:03:25 -0400,What amazes me more than anything is with all the things that MS takes out, there seems to
mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
I got the taskbar to be more than one row by using Explorer Patcher, but
I'd rather it was built-in. a) The 2024H2 update required uninstalilng
EP first (although the 2025H2 did not). b) after every MS update I get a
message in the bottom right that it's downloading labels to go with
something that was in the MS update. It says some features won't work
until the labels are all downloade, and one time or more it suggested
that only some of them were being provided (although maybe that meant at
first). Despite all this, I haven't seen anything not work with EP.
Why they took out multiple lines in the first place, once they went to
the trouble of writing it, I can't imainge.
What else is planned to be fixed??
be ways that 3rd parties add them back or better yet turn them on. Seems so many of them
are there but just not enabled. Why is my question.
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 21 Mar 2026 16:21:56 -0400, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
On 3/21/26 4:13 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:03:25 -0400,What amazes me more than anything is with all the things that MS takes out, there seems to
mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
I got the taskbar to be more than one row by using Explorer Patcher, but >>> I'd rather it was built-in. a) The 2024H2 update required uninstalilng
EP first (although the 2025H2 did not). b) after every MS update I get a >>> message in the bottom right that it's downloading labels to go with
something that was in the MS update. It says some features won't work
until the labels are all downloade, and one time or more it suggested
that only some of them were being provided (although maybe that meant at >>> first). Despite all this, I haven't seen anything not work with EP.
Why they took out multiple lines in the first place, once they went to
the trouble of writing it, I can't imainge.
What else is planned to be fixed??
be ways that 3rd parties add them back or better yet turn them on. Seems so many of them
are there but just not enabled. Why is my question.
I think they are still there too, just bypassed. Although it could also
be that they are deleted and the 3rd parties copy the code out of
previous versions.
I wonder if these 3rd parties are MS employees who wrote or checked
the code in the first place and maybe they work under a pseudonym.
Because it seems like it would take even longer if they had to figure
out what each line is doing.
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
I will believe it when I see it. How about not spying on its users?
?? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and
plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years
in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in
previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
MummyChunk wrote:
?? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and
plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years
in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in
previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different interfaces in including Windows 7and fix the taskbar. Maybe we will be able to give up Open-Shell and Explorer Patcher. I do not like my computer looking like and working like a cellphone.
<Bill>
MummyChunk wrote:
?? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans
to implement everything that has been requested for many years in
Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in
previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different
interfaces in including Windows 7and fix the taskbar. Maybe we will be
able to give up Open-Shell and Explorer Patcher. I do not like my
computer looking like and working like a cellphone.
<Bill>
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different interfaces >> in including Windows 7
This sounds more like April 1st the longer it goes on ...
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 09:41:49 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different
interfaces in including Windows 7and fix the taskbar. Maybe we will be
able to give up Open-Shell and Explorer Patcher. I do not like my
computer looking like and working like a cellphone.
<Bill>
I still remember when I got the preview of Windows 8, and it made my >computer look like an iPhone. I really don't want that, and didn't use W8. >Later Windows got SOMEWHAT better (before W11 got worse, but still not as >bad as 8).
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 09:41:49 -0800, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
MummyChunk wrote:
?? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans
to implement everything that has been requested for many years in
Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in
previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different
interfaces in including Windows 7and fix the taskbar. Maybe we will be
able to give up Open-Shell and Explorer Patcher. I do not like my
computer looking like and working like a cellphone.
<Bill>
I still remember when I got the preview of Windows 8, and it made my computer look like an iPhone. I really don't want that, and didn't use W8. Later Windows got SOMEWHAT better (before W11 got worse, but still not as bad as 8).
On 22.03.2026 18:41, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
MummyChunk wrote:I hope you are right Bill. Though, I can't allow myself to hope that
?? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and
plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years
in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in
previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different interfaces >> in including Windows 7and fix the taskbar. Maybe we will be able to give up >> Open-Shell and Explorer Patcher. I do not like my computer looking like and >> working like a cellphone.
<Bill>
it's true, only to get disappointed once again.
As someone already stated, for now, I'll just keep my eye on the whole situation as it unfolds. Something tells me that the whole "Microslop" situation really hurt them, and they are trying their best to get back
into peoples good graces. And once they do, they'll try to push their
luck once again.
One more thing, someone else mentioned that, despite everything, they
aren't removing any of their telemetry tendrils, nor are they mentioning that. That might be a sign that this is all just performative
What else is planned to be fixed??
On 3/22/2026 2:03 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
What else is planned to be fixed??
Employees' attitude? Priority for stupid but rich customers? :)
On Mon, 3/23/2026 1:28 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Employees' attitude? Priority for stupid but rich customers? :)
Their primary customer is enterprise, which come with IT departments.
They get more money from that, than from consumer installations.
You might not see double-height TaskBars on the enterprise SKU.
At one time, they weren't even allowed to have MSEdge.
One more thing, someone else mentioned that, despite everything, they
aren't removing any of their telemetry tendrils, nor are they mentioning that. That might be a sign that this is all just performative
I still remember when I got the preview of Windows 8, and it made my computer look like an iPhone. I really don't want that, and didn't use W8. Later Windows got SOMEWHAT better (before W11 got worse, but still not as bad as 8).
MummyChunk wrote:
?? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and
plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years
in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made
less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in
previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
I saw an article yesterday that they are going to offer different
interfaces in including Windows 7and fix the taskbar. Maybe we will
be able to give up Open-Shell and Explorer Patcher. I do not like my computer looking like and working like a cellphone.
<Bill>
Nick <nick@koohii.invalid> wrote:
[...]
One more thing, someone else mentioned that, despite everything, they
aren't removing any of their telemetry tendrils, nor are they
mentioning that. That might be a sign that this is all just
performative
You can limit the 'telemetry' ('Diagnostic data'), view what you send ('View diagnostic data'), 'Delete diagnostic data' if you want and, last
but not least, use a local account, so Microsoft does not get any
personal information.
FWIW, I get zero 'spam' from Microsoft, let alone any personalized
content. My 'problem' is the exact opposite, Microsoft doesn't inform
the user, for example not about what is in a Windows Update update. You
have to search with the KB number (if any) and hope you find something
useful there.
All I can say is that Windows 11 is a great recommendation for switching to Linux.
Which I really do not want to do, but until MicroSloth, or Firefox
buys me a new computer to run the software, what are my options?
You know, it was only recently, that I changed the background on my copy
of Windows 8/8.1 :-) When something is so perfect... you tend to leave
it in the corner. To its credit, I never did erase the Windows 8 drive.
When I use it, I can get things done, so it isn't a total loss.
Paul
Sorry!! WHAT?? Windows looking like Apple?? That can't be right, can
it?? ;-)
I really don't want that, and didn't use W8. Later Windows got SOMEWHAT
better (before W11 got worse, but still not as bad as 8).
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 21:45:14 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
[snip]
Sorry!! WHAT?? Windows looking like Apple?? That can't be right, can
it?? ;-)
That's what the original Win 8 did. I remembering some people calling it "tile world".
I have never used a Microsoft account, either on 10 or 11. I don't get ads in Windows (except once when I tried Solitaire, which had ads).
On 23 Mar 2026 16:45:08 GMT
Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
[]
I'm pretty sure the old card game didn't have ads. ah, sorry I'm in a w-11 ng. IGMC.
I have never used a Microsoft account, either on 10 or 11. I don't get ads >> in Windows (except once when I tried Solitaire, which had ads).
? Microsoft has finally come to its senses
The company has suddenly started listening to users' opinions and plans to implement everything that has been requested for many years in Windows 11 with a single update.
Updates can now be completely disabled, the AI Copilot will be made less intrusive, and even the taskbar can be moved up, just like in previous versions of Windows.
What else is planned to be fixed??
(When did Solitaire start have multiple versions?) ?
On Mon, 3/23/2026 4:15 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On 23 Mar 2026 16:45:08 GMT
Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
[]
I'm pretty sure the old card game didn't have ads. ah, sorry I'm in a w-11 ng. IGMC.
I have never used a Microsoft account, either on 10 or 11. I don't get ads
in Windows (except once when I tried Solitaire, which had ads).
And you'd know there is a ZIP kicking around with old games
in it, hand-hacked to run in newer OSes. You can still play WinXP Solitaire...
without ads.
On 23 Mar 2026 16:45:08 GMT Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
[]
I'm pretty sure the old card game didn't have ads. ah, sorry I'm in a
I have never used a Microsoft account, either on 10 or 11. I don't get
ads in Windows (except once when I tried Solitaire, which had ads).
w-11 ng. IGMC.
That's what the original Win 8 did. I remembering some people callingMaybe even something just as familiar. <g> <https://i.postimg.cc/PqvJTwpm/History101.jpg>
it "tile world".
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 08:20:01 -0400, Alan K. wrote:kmahjongg has a bunch of board layouts, some are relatively easy. Shisen-sho is another.
On 3/24/26 5:42 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
(When did Solitaire start have multiple versions?) ?
Splitting hairs, but solitaire only refers to a game played alone. Thus
there are way to many to count. I have about 20 I play, and I'm
skipping a bunch I don't know the rules enough to be able to play.
KPatience (KDE application on Linux) has 14 versions, but the only one I understand is Klondike. It's an ego thing but I like a game where I win
every now and then.
KPatience does not phone home.
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