• Re: 2001:A Space Odyssey, SpaceX, A.I.

    From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 11:28:38
    David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!

    *Surely* you've seen the film?!

    If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.

    You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.


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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 08:20:23
    On Sun, 6/14/2026 2:16 AM, David B. wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!


    Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
    sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
    suspended animation.

    http://miscel.wikidot.com/2001-transcript

    In the last two sections, are some dialogs.

    The first one, Dave is trying to get back into the
    ship and HAL will not let him. Dave has to do a ship-to-ship
    transfer, and under vacuum, he shoots from one ship (pod) to the
    other at considerable velocity. Then he has to re-pressurize
    the place he entered.

    The last part of the transcript, is the scene where HAL is
    being shut down by having some memory-modules unplugged.
    As HAL loses his mind, he sings a song he was taught at the
    factory. Then, the message the crew was supposed to get
    when they arrived at Jupiter, starts to play (because HAL
    is no longer there to stop it from playing).

    The scenes where Dave is transported by the monolith, there's
    no dialog, so there can't be a transcript. Eventually, Dave
    returns to earth, as a super-being.

    https://exclaim.ca/film/article/did_stanley_kubrick_himself_finally_just_explain_the_ending_to_2001_a_space_odyssey

    A later movie, plays with the idea. I didn't see that one,
    not on TV either.

    The Youtube selections, are just parts of the 2001 movie,
    teasers of a sort, to sell DVD collections or whatever. I don't
    think there are enough sections, to make the full movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey

    "The film was announced in 1965 as a "Cinerama"[64] film and was photographed in Super Panavision 70
    (which uses a 65 mm negative combined with spherical lenses to create an aspect ratio of 2.20:1). It
    would eventually be released in a "roadshow" 70 mm version and a later general release 35 mm version.[65][66]
    Colour processing and 35 mm release prints were done using Technicolor's dye transfer process. The 70 mm
    prints were made by MGM Laboratories, Inc. on Metrocolor. The production was $4.5 million over the initial
    $6 million budget and 16 months behind schedule.[67]"

    It's probably best to see it in a facility that can offer 2.20:1 viewing.
    The 35 mm version is likely to toss out some of the detail.

    Paul

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  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 17:21:01
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
    David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!

    *Surely* you've seen the film?!

    If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.

    You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.

    I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a
    used/Ex-Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.

    I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since
    gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!

    I went to the cinema in 2018 to see the 50th anniversary 70mm print. Still fabulous.


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  • From David B.@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 23:35:41
    On 14/06/2026 12:28, Chris wrote:
    David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!

    *Surely* you've seen the film?!

    The film was released just a few months before my first son was born. I
    was learning to fly fast jets at the time!

    If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.

    You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.

    Thank you, Chris.

    --
    David

    Follow-up set to ACW

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  • From David B.@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 23:41:02
    On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
    David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!

    *Surely* you've seen the film?!

    If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.

    You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.

    I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex- Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.

    I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since
    gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!

    Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)

    I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
    if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!

    Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

    Follw-up set to ACW

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 08:38:37
    On Sun, 6/14/2026 6:41 PM, David B. wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
    David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!

    *Surely* you've seen the film?!

    If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.

    You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.

    I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex- Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.

    I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since gone. Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!

    Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)

    I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
    if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!

    Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).


    When you don't use things like your Panasonic Video player,
    the transports jam up. The very first tape you put in it,
    and punch play, should be a blank tape or a tape you can
    afford to lose. It might not be working well enough, to
    be spending money on conversion devices. The heat of keeping
    them plugged in, that power supply that continues working
    (even though the transport is not powered), that seems
    to keep the materials dry in there.

    To capture video, you might have used kit like this.
    But it depends on what software is needed to work the
    USB end of this, whether it will work on your particular
    Apple machine.

    # Premium Composite RCA Scart RGB S-Video To USB Video Frame Grabber For PC

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/312451193099

    My other machine, has a PCI Express TV tuner card, and it has both
    analog and digital capture options. I have a VCR, but
    the quality of the signal that comes from VCRs, does not
    encourage spending time and effort getting that USB thing
    working.

    It's just easier to plug your Panasonic Video player,
    into an old analog colour TV set you kept, and admire the
    signal that way. If the picture seems a bit fuzzy, you
    haven't spent any money on getting a digital fuzzy picture
    on your Apple iMac. The idea is, to view the content one
    time, without fussing too much over the process. As the
    fussing cannot pay off (the Garbage-In-Garbage-Out problem
    of video as a hobby).

    Paul

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  • From David B.@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 09:04:25
    On 15 Jun 2026 at 13:38:37 BST, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 6/14/2026 6:41 PM, David B. wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 13:00, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 14/06/2026 9:28 pm, Chris wrote:
    David B. <boaterdave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 13/06/2026 17:29, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    HAL 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" - YouTube
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE>
    What happened AFTER that?!!!

    *Surely* you've seen the film?!

    If not, then, very much recommend you spend 2hrs watching it. Iconic.

    You can rent it from Amazon Prime, Sky or Youtube.

    I can fondly remember spending AU$75 in about 1982/3 to buy a used/Ex-
    Rental BETA format Tape of 2001:A Space Odyssey.

    I think I STILL have the Tape ... although the Player has long since gone. >>> Now I also have a DVD of the Film, though!!

    Thanks for responding, Daniel! :-)

    I've still got my Panasonic Video player. My intention had been to see
    if I could somehow connect it to my Apple iMac!

    Anyone reading here ever done that? (Please respond in ACW).


    When you don't use things like your Panasonic Video player,
    the transports jam up. The very first tape you put in it,
    and punch play, should be a blank tape or a tape you can
    afford to lose. It might not be working well enough, to
    be spending money on conversion devices. The heat of keeping
    them plugged in, that power supply that continues working
    (even though the transport is not powered), that seems
    to keep the materials dry in there.

    To capture video, you might have used kit like this.
    But it depends on what software is needed to work the
    USB end of this, whether it will work on your particular
    Apple machine.

    # Premium Composite RCA Scart RGB S-Video To USB Video Frame Grabber For PC

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/312451193099

    My other machine, has a PCI Express TV tuner card, and it has both
    analog and digital capture options. I have a VCR, but
    the quality of the signal that comes from VCRs, does not
    encourage spending time and effort getting that USB thing
    working.

    It's just easier to plug your Panasonic Video player,
    into an old analog colour TV set you kept, and admire the
    signal that way. If the picture seems a bit fuzzy, you
    haven't spent any money on getting a digital fuzzy picture
    on your Apple iMac. The idea is, to view the content one
    time, without fussing too much over the process. As the
    fussing cannot pay off (the Garbage-In-Garbage-Out problem
    of video as a hobby).

    Paul

    Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view
    VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!

    I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an elderly widow who was my friend.
    It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)

    --
    David

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 17:55:27
    On 6/14/2026 8:20 PM, Paul wrote:

    Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
    sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
    suspended animation.....


    Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of patience. :)

    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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  • From Carlos E. R.@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 15:29:11
    On 2026-06-16 11:04, David B. wrote:
    On 15 Jun 2026 at 13:38:37 BST, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    ...

    Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!

    I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an elderly widow who was my friend.
    It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)

    I recently had a need to watch an actual tape, because I found a tape,
    copied from a video-camera by a friend, which is the only one that
    contains some shots of my parents.

    So I think I first tried the video recorder with another tape. I had to
    find a TV set with a SCART connector, and found that I had one that just
    by chance I did not recycle.

    The test tape played fine, so did the actual tape. Just some bad region
    with sync difficulty.

    I then located a service that convert tapes to digital file: perfect.
    Their machine managed to extract video from the part that seemed corrupted.

    Now I can ditch my tape collection and two machines.


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Carlos E. R.@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 15:30:24
    On 2026-06-16 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 8:20 PM, Paul wrote:

    Dave is the only crew member left, because HAL
    sabotaged the life support for the crew members in
    suspended animation.....


    Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of patience.ÿ :)


    It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi
    movie in history.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 21:51:52
    On 6/16/2026 9:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-06-16 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of
    patience.ÿ :)

    It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi movie in history.

    Its pace is way way too slow. To the point of boring you out. Maybe I
    could download the movie's digital copy and re-encode it to play in 2x
    speed using some freeware. :)

    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 14:28:59
    Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 6/16/2026 9:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-06-16 11:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Thank you, thank you! Maybe I should re-watch the movie with a bit of
    patience.ÿ :)

    It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi
    movie in history.

    Its pace is way way too slow. To the point of boring you out. Maybe I
    could download the movie's digital copy and re-encode it to play in 2x
    speed using some freeware. :)

    Utterly missing the point...


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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:35:22
    On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:


    Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!

    I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an elderly widow who was my friend.
    It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)


    You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?

    I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
    We're talking big screen luxury.

    It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
    a cleaning.

    Paul


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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 22:57:54
    On 6/16/2026 10:28 PM, Chris wrote:

    Utterly missing the point...


    I am NOT down-rating the movie. But it's really boring from my point of
    view. Many Oscar movies are boring anyway. :)

    --

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    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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  • From Carlos E. R.@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 20:27:55
    On 2026-06-16 16:57, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/16/2026 10:28 PM, Chris wrote:

    Utterly missing the point...


    I am NOT down-rating the movie. But it's really boring from my point of view. Many Oscar movies are boring anyway. :)


    Something is wrong with you :-P

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From pothead@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 20:53:59
    On 2026-06-16, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:


    Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view >> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!

    I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an >> elderly widow who was my friend.
    It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)


    You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?

    I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
    We're talking big screen luxury.

    It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
    a cleaning.

    Paul

    Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so forth
    is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require replacement.



    --
    pothead

    "Often imitated, never duplicated."

    "Socialism is the philosophy of failure,
    the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
    It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

    -- Winston Churchill





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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 11:05:53
    On 6/17/2026 2:27 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    I am NOT down-rating the movie. But it's really boring from my point of
    view. Many Oscar movies are boring anyway. :)

    Something is wrong with you :-P


    There are all walks of life, Your Honor! ;)

    --

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 11:54:31
    On 6/16/2026 10:35 PM, Paul wrote:

    I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
    We're talking big screen luxury.

    It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
    a cleaning.

    Well, you can LISTEN to the movie I mentioned while doing the dirty job. :)


    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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  • From Tim Slattery@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 10:08:13
    "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:


    It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi >movie in history.

    I had the good fortune to see it when it first came out on a Cinerama
    screen (BIG screen). An absolute mind-blower!

    --
    Tim Slattery
    timslattery <at> utexas <dot> edu

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  • From Mark Lloyd@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 17:05:20
    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 10:08:13 -0400, Tim Slattery wrote:

    "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:


    It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi >>movie in history.

    I had the good fortune to see it when it first came out on a Cinerama
    screen (BIG screen). An absolute mind-blower!

    I saw it in a theater in 1970. Near the beginning, when you see the apes grunting and throwing bones, there was a caption with the words "OUR FOREFATHERS". A lot of people laughed at that. Every time I've seen the
    movie since, that caption wasn't there.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "For God so loved the world that he made up his mind to damn the large
    majority of the human race." -- Robert G. Ingersoll

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  • From Carlos E. R.@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 18, 2026 01:51:21
    On 2026-06-16 22:53, pothead wrote:
    On 2026-06-16, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 6/16/2026 5:04 AM, David B. wrote:


    Thank you for your comments, Paul. I think I'll refrain from trying to view >>> VHS tapes on my Apple iMac!

    I hope I may soon have access to an old TV following the recent death of an >>> elderly widow who was my friend.
    It will depend on the generosity of her executors! ;-)


    You didn't keep a TV set of your own, from the analog TV era ?

    I've got a 9" set I could use to view VCR output.
    We're talking big screen luxury.

    It's got a lot of dust on it, so first it'll need
    a cleaning.

    Paul

    Biggest issue with old VCR, cassette tape decks, turn tables and so forth
    is that the rubber parts, mainly the belts, turn to mush and require replacement.

    True...

    And by the time that happens, the builder is out of business and you
    can't find the spares.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Carlos E. R.@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 18, 2026 01:53:32
    On 2026-06-17 16:08, Tim Slattery wrote:
    "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:


    It is possibly the best movie ever made. It certainly is the best Sci-Fi
    movie in history.

    I had the good fortune to see it when it first came out on a Cinerama
    screen (BIG screen). An absolute mind-blower!


    What I saw first was the book, in Spanish, with some pictures from the
    movie. I had to wait at least a decade till I had a chance to watch it.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES??, EU??;

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